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# Toronto [](/r/leafs) Maple Leafs (8-5-2) at Detroit [](/r/detroitredwings) Red Wings (8-5-3)
#Avicii Arena
##In-Game Updates
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|Time Clock|
|:–:|
|2nd – 02:26|
|Teams|1st|2nd|3rd|Total|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|0|0|–|0|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|0|2|–|2|
##Team Stats
|Team|Shots|Hits|Blocks|FOW%|Giveaways|Takeaways|Power Play|PIM|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|13|4|14|52.8%|6|4|0/2|12|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|18|6|8|47.2%|2|1|0/4|8|
##Goals
|Period|Time|Team|Strength|Description|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|2nd|12:52|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|Even|Daniel Sprong (5) wrist shot, assist(s): None|
|2nd|14:44|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|Even|Lucas Raymond (7) snap shot, assist(s): Ben Chiarot (5), Moritz Seider (11)|
##Penalties
|Period|Time|Team|Type|Min|Description|
|:–:|:–:|:-:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|1st|04:00|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Mitchell Marner hooking against Alex DeBrincat|
|1st|07:49|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|MIN|2|Michael Rasmussen slashing against Mitchell Marner|
|1st|17:26|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Tyler Bertuzzi slashing against Olli Maatta|
|2nd|00:16|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|MIN|2|J.T. Compher holding against Tyler Bertuzzi|
|2nd|02:15|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Max Domi slashing against Moritz Seider|
|2nd|02:15|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Max Domi roughing against Moritz Seider|
|2nd|02:15|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|MIN|2|Moritz Seider cross-checking against Max Domi|
|2nd|02:15|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|MIN|2|Moritz Seider roughing against Max Domi|
|2nd|09:15|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Mark Giordano roughing against Lucas Raymond|
|2nd|12:52|[TOR](/r/leafs)|MIN|2|Morgan Rielly closing-hand-on-puck|
|2nd|15:29|[TOR](/r/leafs)|BEN|2|too-many-men-on-the-ice served by Nicholas Robertson|
**Officials**
* Referees: Kyle Rehman, Kendrick Nicholson
* Linesmen: Shandor Alphonso, Ryan Daisy
***
##Time
|PT|MT|CT|ET|AT|UTC|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|11:00AM|12:00PM|1:00PM|2:00PM|3:00PM|7:00PM|##Game Info:
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|:–:|:–:|
|TV|TSN4, NHLN, BSDET|
|Other|[Preview](https://www.nhl.com/news/toronto-maple-leafs-detroit-red-wings-game-preview-november-17) – [Boxscore](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2023020251/boxscore) – [Recap](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2023020251/recap)|
|GameCenter|[On NHL.com](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2023020251/playbyplay)|
##Injuries
||Player|Date|Injury|Status|Details|Return|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|Ville Husso|15 Nov 2023|Personal|OUT|With the Detroit Red Wings in Sweden for the Global Series, Husso has returned to Detroit to be with his wife following the birth of their first child, Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press reports Wednesday.|22 Nov 2023|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|Austin Czarnik|09 Nov 2023|Lower Body|DTD|Czarnik (lower body) will not play Thursday versus Ottawa in Sweden, according to Daniella Bruce of the Detroit Red Wings’ official site.|unknown|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|Matt Luff|24 Sep 2023|Upper Body|IR|Luff (upper body) suffered a long-term injury during Sunday’s scrimmage, according to Max Bultman of The Athletic.|unknown|
|–|–|–|–|–|–|–|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|John Klingberg|15 Nov 2023|Undisclosed|DTD|Klingberg (undisclosed) is likely to miss Friday’s game against the Detroit Red Wings, per Lance Hornby of The Toronto Sun.|unknown|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|Timothy Liljegren|02 Nov 2023|Ankle|IR-LT|The Maple Leafs put Liljegren (ankle) on long-term injured reserve Saturday.|30 Nov 2023|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|Conor Timmins|30 Sep 2023|Lower Body|IR-LT|Timmins (lower body) hasn’t been ruled out Friday versus Detroit, but he’s more likely to return for Sunday’s game against the Minnesota Wild, coach Sheldon Keefe told Lance Hornby of The Toronto Sun on Wednesday.|unknown|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|Matt Murray|20 Sep 2023|Hip|IR-LT|Surgery|07 May 2024|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|Jake Muzzin|20 Sep 2023|Neck|IR-LT|Not Specified|15 Sep 2024|
[Source](https://puckpedia.com/team/detroit-red-wings/injuries), [Source](https://puckpedia.com/team/toronto-maple-leafs/injuries)
##Team Stats
|Team|GP|W|L|OT|P|P%|GF/G|GA/G|PP%|PK%|SF/G|SA/G|FO%|
|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|:–:|
|[DET](/r/detroitredwings)|16|8|5|3|19|0.594|3.69|3.38|21.21|79.37|31.12|30.38|49.94|
|[TOR](/r/leafs)|15|8|5|2|18|0.600|3.53|3.53|28.26|72.00|32.27|31.13|51.77|
[Source](https://api.nhle.com/stats/rest/en/team/summary?isAggregate=false&isGame=false&sort=[{“property”:”points”,”direction”:”DESC”},{“property”:”wins”,”direction”:”DESC”}]&start=0&limit=50&factCayenneExp=gamesPlayed>=0&cayenneExp=gameTypeId=2 and seasonId<=20232024 and seasonId>=20232024)
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The amount of too many men penalties we’ve taken this season is ridiculous.
where is nylander?
How many too many men penalties in a season becomes a fireable offence?
At least I can go back to work now. This isn’t worth a lost hour that I’ll have to make up over the weekend.
What the fuck.
We have a garbage team, hope we don’t make the playoffs
Glad I woke up at 4 am to watch this shit
Lmfao you just knew that this was going to be a shit show for the Leafs
HOW MANY TOO MANY MEN ARE WE GONNA GET PER SEASON? WTF DUDE we always get too many men penalties like it makes no sense fucking COUNT
Samsonov down again..ffs
How the fuck do we keep taking these? Your in the fucking NHL how do you not know how to line change, how has this been a problem for fucking years?
Refs are on a roll tonight
Refs have their fucking eyes on our team like goddamn hawks.
Just wondering if it’s frowned upon to have a bourbon at 8am while watching the leafs? Coffee wasn’t strong enough for this shit haha
Refs have their eyes closed looking at 3 guys getting tripped too busy staring at the bench.
too many idiots
I can’t believe im saying this about a NHL team, but this team needs to spend a fucking day figuring out how to change lines properly. I think my beer league team has a better handle on it this year.
Fuck this league, honestly
not a leafs game without a too many men minor
what is gio doing??????
someone forgot to tell these boys there was a game today i guess
leave sammy and keefe in sweden please
Knew the leafs wouldn’t show up for this game.
Detroit played last night and lost. We are fresh and aren’t playing good at all. Giordano is awful. Gotta stop playing him so much, he’s a complete liability. Samsonov of course, allows in a terrible shot and the leafs continue to get these lazy bench minors. Completely unacceptable
Marner is too whiny on the ice
I really don’t complain about the refs often, but this game is absurd. Usually the Leafs deserve to lose the games they lose, but this game is an embarrassment.
Better win one of these games otherwise going to be a long ass flight back to Toronto lol. Actually they do continue on the road but not until a week from today in Chicago at 2pm est and then in Pittsburgh next Saturday.
God if marners goal was called this game would have gone on a whole nother trajectory – this has been a terrible 5 mins of hockey
Sheldon and too many men. Classic duo
There’s the once a game too many men penalty
Can’t ever beat a team that plays a tough forecheck.
I just hope the losing continues a bit more and they get rid of Shanahan finally…throw in the dumb fuck he hired in the spring as well
It feels so weird hearing Mike do a full energy announcement for the opposition
Confused why our goal didn’t count and then they immediately got a free penalty shot for literally no reason
These boys asleep
Leafs go one game without taking a too many men penalty challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
Detroit played a game last night AND fucking flew to Sweden. Wtf.
So done with getting such a shitty product from the league
The refs are compromised
https://preview.redd.it/hylma5qp0z0c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8dc21774e5e1ad1075675e1f2b59f0af576c49e
Weak goal by Samsonov followed by a too many men penalty? Classic. Is Mitch going to hoof it over the boards for a delay of game too?
Keefe needs a clipboard that he can smack on players’ helmets to let them know they can go
This has BABCOCK PULLING STRINGS TO END NYLANDERS POINT RUN IN HIS HOME COUNTRY CAUSE HE COULDNT PERSONALLY BENCH HIM AAAAALLLLLLL OVER IT
The Leafs are so fragile they need absolutely perfect conditions to play anything resembling decent hockey.
Any kind of unusual circumstance and they just look like shit. Always with the excuses.
Leafs were more focused on getting social media clips than prepping for this game
Why does Keefe start Sammy in critical games where it is not needed? The Boston one comes to mind as well.
why is marner on the first line still he’s been terrible