Now that we are in the bye week (and I was feeling bored), I decided to take a look at the players stats for the first two months (Oct – Nov, Games 1 – 24) vs the last two months (Dec – Jan, Games 25 -49). I know we have the eye test / vibe test telling us how we think our players are doing but it’s always interesting to see how our eye test matches the actual stats.
Some interesting conclusions:
* For all the talk of Petey’s inconsistency he’s actually been pretty consistent in the first two months of the season vs the last two months. You can say the same about all our top guys (Petey, Miller, Quinn and Boeser).
*Petey’s 7GWG in the last two months just pops out for me. Wow.
* Hronek had an amazing first two months of the season but he’s kinda fallen back in the last two months. I’ve also noticed his TOI has dropped by 2 minutes as well.
*Everyone here commenting about the fall of Kuzmenko and Mikyhev. Kuzy has definitely fallen off a cliff. He had 15 points in the first 24 games and now only 6 points in the last two months. Mikyhev’s decline hasn’t been as steep but overall he is still probably at a 0.51 ppg clip which is around his normal ppg in his career.
* I find it funny that both Hoglander and Lafferty have the exact same counting stats for the first two months (10 points).
*To no one’s surprise our biggest improvements in the last two months were Blueger, Joshua, Garland and Suter.
by Sinochick
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Oh no, our top 3 went from 99 pts to 94 pts! Regression! REGRESSION!!
Petey has had two multi-game pointless streaks this season. People whining about his consistency are actually whining about how useless Mikheyev and Kuzmenko have been but want to blame Petey because he hasn’t signed a contract yet because he’s so selfish and wants 19 million according to a rumour!
Mikheyev is at like 17 games without a goal now and that isn’t good enough no matter how you want to talk about his overall points.
I think the hronek one is the most telling. His contract is going go be very difficult.
Though Hronek’s points dropped that means his contract could be cheaper…
wow props to the third line 👏
Blueger, Joshua, Garland & Suter all on approx. 55-60 point per season pace over the past 25.
>For all the talk of Petey’s inconsistency he’s actually been pretty consistent in the first two months of the season vs the last two months. You can say the same about all our top guys (Petey, Miller, Quinn and Boeser).
Context matters here. Pettersson spent the first half of the season playing with relative plugs like Kuzmenko, Mikhayev and Lafferty. He spent a good part of the second half playing on the Lotto Line. A lot of his second half production is from the big week on the east coast road trip where he put up 12 points in 4 games.
All things being equal, you’d expect better production from Pettersson when he gets to play with better quality linemates. This isn’t showing that.
The same holds true for Miller and Boeser. They went from having primarily PDG on their line to Elias Pettersson, and that only maintained their production. That shows the drop off in offensive production.
>*Petey’s 7GWG in the last two months just pops out for me. Wow.
What do you mean “Wow”? GWG is sort of a BS stat. Unless you’re implying he doesn’t try unless the score is tied.
>*Everyone here commenting about the fall of Kuzmenko and Mikyhev. Kuzy has definitely fallen off a cliff. He had 15 points in the first 24 games and now only 6 points in the last two months. Mikyhev’s decline hasn’t been as steep but overall he is still probably at a 0.51 ppg clip which is around his normal ppg in his career.
What isn’t shown here is that where Kuzmenko has actually gotten into trouble is his play without the puck. No amount of looking at offensive production shows just how bad a player he’s been.
>Hronek had an amazing first two months of the season but he’s kinda fallen back in the last two months. I’ve also noticed his TOI has dropped by 2 minutes as well.
Again, context matters. For a while at the start of the season, the Canucks were running him on PP1 with Hughes, Pettersson, Miller and Boeser. That’s stopped now. So his minutes and production has fallen off. You see his powerplay points went from 8 at the start of the season to just 1 in the second half. That’s the simple explanation.
What I’m shocked that you didn’t talk about is how ridiculous some of the team’s shooting percentages are, especially in the second half. In the second half the Canucks have 5 players with 5 or more goals, scoring on more than 20% of their shots. Among their forwards, only Mikhayev has a shooting percentage below 10%. The league average for shooting (including defencemen, for context) is usually around 9.5%.
You can see when kuzmenko was playing with confidence during the first 24 games, and now the other 20 some odd games he’s played when he’s become tocchets whipping boy getting benched every few games, getting demoted to the bottom 6 .. it’s too bad, but winnings fun soo 🤷♂️
I’m surprised Mikheyev’s production is basically the same. I felt like he fell of harder than that