I dunno. It’s…fine? Not sure Top Titty gives us much of a boost and makes our cap issues worse, unless someone is on LTIR longer than they’re letting on. Kaliyev doesn’t have a ton of value but I can’t imagine they give up Toff for him and a 3rd, basically. Would be tops to see Toffoli back in the Kings jersey tho
RalphReynolds87
Sold. Bringing Toff back would be on brand and a stellar addition, especially if we play that LTIR game…
FakeTreverMoore12
I’d be very surprised to see Toffoli go for this little, but I’d be happy about it. The real question is how we would fit everything into the salary cap if anyone comes off LTIR earlier than expected. At least with this scenario, we wouldn’t have to worry too much about upcoming contract negotiations with Byfield and Roy since we’d be dumping cap on a rental.
spc1221
That’s too much to give up for Toff
trashking11
I don’t know if you watched the segment but this isn’t a “rumor” this was purely speculative by some TV talking heads. They were just discussing trades they personally thought might work. There’s no real truth behind this trade proposal
twills2121
not interested unless Kempe or Arvidsson are out till end of season – apart from that, Toffoli isn’t better than those two.
fuckin-slayer
i don’t like the idea of going after a rental
xytlar
Surprised we’re not seeing Pacioretty in the rumour mill more often. Really good contract for a potential impact player. Could fill a similar role for a team like LAK. Probably cost less too
MIDImunk
Barf, no thanks. I like Toff, but he’s not the final piece to push us over and there’s no way we can resign him without dropping other players. Kaliyev should only be moved for a long term asset. Helenius is too interesting of a bottom 6, cost controlled player.
JustTheBeerLight
Pull the trigger.
Onedayimhere
The Devils are still in position to get to the wildcard. I don’t see them making a move that doesn’t involve the improving in improving in goaltending.
I gotta admit that I’m a fan of both teams so i recognize that I’m biased here and open to debate.
aughtrocktalk
We can bring this closer to reality if we beat NJ Tomorrow
raymondliang
Id swap out Helenius for someone else since I think his size could prove to be useful in a future 4C role. But if you’re trying to acquire someone who’s on pace for 35+ goals, you’re gonna have to give. This team still struggles with finishing as a whole, so if we do decide to be buyers and go full Vegas with the cap space, adding someone with Toffoli’s numbers makes sense
a_very_weird_fantasy
Toffoli is a rental. I don’t like it.
kovacro_77
MediumRareSteak18
This is a laughably cheap package for toffoli and would not be cap compliant when kempe, Anderson, and RV come back (all coming back at least 2 weeks prior to the playoffs). On top of that, devils are still fighting for a WC position, there even trying to get markstrom at this pt. Doubt this happens and if it does, Roy or some larger pieces will have to go the other way (or another trade needs to happen)
MumkeMode
No way, a rental like that is for a team that could make a deep run and are shoring up depth. Thats not what we are
VerifiedBackup9999
Does anyone seriously think Toffoli gives the Kings a chance to make a deep run? In the best case, he helps them win a series and saves Blake’s job. I don’t like that.
gl129384
Nah too much for a rental
OddPhilosopher599
It’s a no from me. This team doesn’t have it. We are becoming thin in Ontario. We need to trade Roy for some draft assistance and retool for next season.
robotscantsurf
where is the cap room for this? someone would have to retain…maybe they could get a third party, but that means the price goes up and I dont like that. I am all for trying to unload Kaliyev, but lets face it his value is quite low. Also, as much as I like Toffoli, i don’t think that he helps push this team to the second round.
700akn
Drop the 3rd round draft pick and give us a 2nd and 3rd would work. There’s no room for Arty or Helenius. A 2nd or 3rd allows us to start rebuilding the pipeline.
Stolthet24
This is a low cost to pay IMO. Does that work for our cap though? Doesn’t seem like it would…
adulting247
love TT, but this is an overpay IMO – esp for a rental
simonjr76
No we can’t keep adding back to the old boys club.
Rooftop720
No rentals. We need a better trade. We lose players and a pick for a rented player, we loss if we do this trade.
wil
There is no reason to go after a rental this season. This team will barely make the playoffs, if at all, and there is no way they are going past the first round.
Man, what a bummer this season is turning out to be.
Philatangy
Can’t happen with the Kings Salary cap, unless we expect that Arvidsson (or Kempe) will out the entire regular season. So far, he is rumored to be back before playoffs.
Sufficient-Soup-5160
No no no no no
theRealBerj
i love Toffoli. i can wear my 73 again! but we are not winning the cup this year. build for years to come
Split_InfinityDarlin
I don’t see why we need a trade.
HockeyBabble
Fuck no
One piece MAYBE but not three
-FR0STY-one
Might as well bring Tanner Pearson back with Tyler.
Zalaya
I have an emotional attachment to helenius but nj could definitely use his size
KingsoftheNHL
What a terrible fucken trade.. Blake is an idiot if he makes that trade
cowmix88
I don’t see why people hate this. We’re not giving up a top pick or top prospect hereand Toffoli is putting up great numbers.
jrgardenlover
Why trade for TT when he can be signed as a free agent next season? Ride with Kaliyev and see what Helenius can do as a 3C or 4C.
KingsFan96
We got Madden, a 2nd and a 4th when we traded him away. Giving up Kaliyev, Helenius, and a 3rd is essentially a wash IMO except TT is older.
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I like it
I dunno. It’s…fine? Not sure Top Titty gives us much of a boost and makes our cap issues worse, unless someone is on LTIR longer than they’re letting on. Kaliyev doesn’t have a ton of value but I can’t imagine they give up Toff for him and a 3rd, basically. Would be tops to see Toffoli back in the Kings jersey tho
Sold. Bringing Toff back would be on brand and a stellar addition, especially if we play that LTIR game…
I’d be very surprised to see Toffoli go for this little, but I’d be happy about it. The real question is how we would fit everything into the salary cap if anyone comes off LTIR earlier than expected. At least with this scenario, we wouldn’t have to worry too much about upcoming contract negotiations with Byfield and Roy since we’d be dumping cap on a rental.
That’s too much to give up for Toff
I don’t know if you watched the segment but this isn’t a “rumor” this was purely speculative by some TV talking heads. They were just discussing trades they personally thought might work. There’s no real truth behind this trade proposal
not interested unless Kempe or Arvidsson are out till end of season – apart from that, Toffoli isn’t better than those two.
i don’t like the idea of going after a rental
Surprised we’re not seeing Pacioretty in the rumour mill more often. Really good contract for a potential impact player. Could fill a similar role for a team like LAK. Probably cost less too
Barf, no thanks. I like Toff, but he’s not the final piece to push us over and there’s no way we can resign him without dropping other players. Kaliyev should only be moved for a long term asset. Helenius is too interesting of a bottom 6, cost controlled player.
Pull the trigger.
The Devils are still in position to get to the wildcard. I don’t see them making a move that doesn’t involve the improving in improving in goaltending.
I gotta admit that I’m a fan of both teams so i recognize that I’m biased here and open to debate.
We can bring this closer to reality if we beat NJ Tomorrow
Id swap out Helenius for someone else since I think his size could prove to be useful in a future 4C role. But if you’re trying to acquire someone who’s on pace for 35+ goals, you’re gonna have to give. This team still struggles with finishing as a whole, so if we do decide to be buyers and go full Vegas with the cap space, adding someone with Toffoli’s numbers makes sense
Toffoli is a rental. I don’t like it.
This is a laughably cheap package for toffoli and would not be cap compliant when kempe, Anderson, and RV come back (all coming back at least 2 weeks prior to the playoffs). On top of that, devils are still fighting for a WC position, there even trying to get markstrom at this pt. Doubt this happens and if it does, Roy or some larger pieces will have to go the other way (or another trade needs to happen)
No way, a rental like that is for a team that could make a deep run and are shoring up depth. Thats not what we are
Does anyone seriously think Toffoli gives the Kings a chance to make a deep run? In the best case, he helps them win a series and saves Blake’s job. I don’t like that.
Nah too much for a rental
It’s a no from me. This team doesn’t have it. We are becoming thin in Ontario. We need to trade Roy for some draft assistance and retool for next season.
where is the cap room for this? someone would have to retain…maybe they could get a third party, but that means the price goes up and I dont like that. I am all for trying to unload Kaliyev, but lets face it his value is quite low. Also, as much as I like Toffoli, i don’t think that he helps push this team to the second round.
Drop the 3rd round draft pick and give us a 2nd and 3rd would work. There’s no room for Arty or Helenius. A 2nd or 3rd allows us to start rebuilding the pipeline.
This is a low cost to pay IMO. Does that work for our cap though? Doesn’t seem like it would…
love TT, but this is an overpay IMO – esp for a rental
No we can’t keep adding back to the old boys club.
No rentals. We need a better trade. We lose players and a pick for a rented player, we loss if we do this trade.
There is no reason to go after a rental this season. This team will barely make the playoffs, if at all, and there is no way they are going past the first round.
Man, what a bummer this season is turning out to be.
Can’t happen with the Kings Salary cap, unless we expect that Arvidsson (or Kempe) will out the entire regular season. So far, he is rumored to be back before playoffs.
No no no no no
i love Toffoli. i can wear my 73 again! but we are not winning the cup this year. build for years to come
I don’t see why we need a trade.
Fuck no
One piece MAYBE but not three
Might as well bring Tanner Pearson back with Tyler.
I have an emotional attachment to helenius but nj could definitely use his size
What a terrible fucken trade.. Blake is an idiot if he makes that trade
I don’t see why people hate this. We’re not giving up a top pick or top prospect hereand Toffoli is putting up great numbers.
Why trade for TT when he can be signed as a free agent next season? Ride with Kaliyev and see what Helenius can do as a 3C or 4C.
We got Madden, a 2nd and a 4th when we traded him away. Giving up Kaliyev, Helenius, and a 3rd is essentially a wash IMO except TT is older.