In this edition of 32 Thoughts, Jeff and Elliotte begin by revisiting John Tortorella’s outburst on the bench while refusing to leave after an ejection. Then, the guys unpack the Golden Knights’ use of LTIR, and the hockey world’s reaction following the acquisition of Tomas Hertl.
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0:00 – John Tortorella’s outburst on the bench while refusing to leave after an ejection.
15:21 – The Pittsburgh Penguins going backwards for the first time in Sidney Crosby’s career and the aftermath of the Jake Guentzel trade.
26:27 – Elliotte provides an injury update for Canucks netminder Thatcher Demko
27:46 – Unpacking the Golden Knights’ use of LTIR, and the hockey world’s reaction following the acquisition of Tomas Hertl.
37:42 – That topic bleeds into a discussion around “no-state-tax teams” and concern regarding competitive balance in the NHL.
41:34 – Jeff and Elliotte also discuss the San Jose Sharks, who have now committed to a full rebuild.
43:40 – The fellas then move onto a number of trade deadline topics, including: Linus Ullmark staying in Boston
47:29 – The Evgeny Kuznetsov deal.
50:01 – The Byram for Mittelstadt trade.
57:17 – The Winning Jets picking up Tyler Toffoli.
1:05:00 – Later in the pod the guys turn their attention to the Arizona Coyotes as their search for new land continues.
1:07:17 – The crazy OT decision in the Wild-Predators game.
1:11:31 – The guys answer your questions in the Montana’s Thought Line.
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This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman.
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.
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23 Comments
The league has hated the Flyers for decades, they just aren't hiding it now.
NHL getting LIKE Baseball say one word out you go….
If reffs manage the game …what about betting?
Regardless of what Torts did, the owner coming out and saying they'll pay any fine is the really bad part. It sends a terrible precedent that league discipline means nothing.
Sports betting has made the game and officating worse. Torts is a legend.
Of crosby really wants to win again he shoukd leave or take 2×5
Man the NHL is stupid.. Stuff like losing a shutout over a minute off the ice is just asinine man
Half of the rules you can chuck out the window for being knit picky
The "pull your goalie and lose the 'extra' point" thing is ridiculous. How many times has that happened in 20 years? Has it even been more than once? And at the end of the day, the extra point is almost meaningless. Look at any year since the loser point has been implemented. Only once or twice in all that time has it ever made a playoff implication.
Bettman and Daly hate Torts.
If you dont play in any game after the deadline you sit the whole playoffs or at LEAST 2 rounds.
On the LTIR issue, the League should have to sign off on anyone returning from LTIR and players who are on LTIR at the end of the season are not eligible to play in the 1st round.
On the Income Tax issue, teams in states with state income tax should be lobbying to the state to reduce or eliminate the taxes.
You don't need to "hear" from the officials. All you need to do is be able to read the lips of Torts. After four f bombs, the ref told him that was enough. Torts followed with at least three more f you's and a couple of other expletives and he got tossed. Then he had another tantrum and refused to leave the bench. This went on another couple of minutes, including him shouting that he would not leave, and that the official had to leave! Sure it's funny, but what is ANY league, authority figure, or parent to do? Exactly what the nhl did, fine his ass and suspend him so the message is clear and unambiguous.
And another thing. As far as "refs need to be held accountable", they are. It just isn't made public. Two things i know for a fact, is that after EVERY game they are given a "report card" from a supervisor. Every call and missed call is scrutinized, and secondly, their pay structure is commensurate with performance. Their pay is heavily dependent on their performance, both for each game and the number of games they are assigned in the regular season and playoffs.
All officials get paid on a scale (based on their seniority/experience) that has a maximum and minimum.
For simplicity's sake let's call it an even $100 max and minimun $50 (yes, i'm aware they average about $250,000 a season) per game. If they missed two offsides they would be deducted $5 for each, and missed an obvious penalty because they were out of position $20 gets deducted, so they end up only making $70 instead of $100 for that game.
In other words, they are held much more accountable than you or i at work.
I’m on board with Torts! There has to be some accountability with ref,ing!
I think the next time McCauley refs a Flyers game, he might get accidentally run over. Just saying.
The officials are corrupt With Betman leading the way. Stop going to the games, stop watching games on the TV, and stop buying their merchandise. Hit them where it hurts and maybe they'll start making changes. I'm tired of Betman's dictatorship, what a punk.
You can't run the pens like Toronto. Dubas seems to destroying the team
the league has gotten douchbaggy. Coaches all the time question calls, get loud, and get angry. what the crap is with a toss and suspension for questions call or yelling. Sorry but thats bs
The refs should be fined and suspended too.
Elliotte son’d Jeff at 35 minutes 40 seconds
The officials have received no erosion of confidence in my book when dealing with the irresponsible tortorella who should have been suspended for one year and fined $500,000.
I watched the game and all of the highlights over and over again. my team is in the metro and it's not Philly. calls against Philly were terrible. And the refs decided the outcome of the game. you guys want to pass off torts as a out of control coach and laugh about it. and how Shaw really should be the coach. the poor poor refs. you two are like to corrupt Politian's. I'm officially nominating you two as reining kings of stupid people.
Mitts is gonna surprise a lot of people.