IceCon, Preds & Jason Allison – EPISODE 489

IceCon, Preds & Jason Allison – EPISODE 489

It’s my duty to please the booty and M got mad at me the coach and he goes Jesus Christ why don’t you just wor two lines in what okay switch to car please please please never do that Yep hello everybody Welcome to episode 489 of spit and chicklets presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the boss D Sports podcast family what is going on everyone hopefully you all had a good week we in crunch time right now

Playoffs less than a month away we have no idea who is going to play who let’s go check on the boys Way Out West holy [ __ ] single has some spunk ladies and gentlemen Jesus Christ he’s coming out of the gates High stepping I love single

Ra I don’t know how many of our fans do with the [ __ ] backlash online I would I would say maybe maybe the worst divorce announcement in the history your divorce announcements no offense like I mentioned I mentioned we’re we’re we’re we’re very very you know happy for you

To be in a better spot as you told us but I mean to come on and kind of just like glance over a 27-year marriage by describing that you’re horny as [ __ ] was an incredible way to go about it but that’s why you’re you right you’re the

[ __ ] that’s it should should say should say everything right there but anyways enough of that [ __ ] they’ve already what you mean enough of that [ __ ] we’re starting the show 20 minutes every pause B told me that we’re starting every pod getting your like single life escapades and I said dude we’ll have no

Listeners left like can we just do it at the end of the show but I mean Biz is the boss no shut I ain’t the [ __ ] boss now R I would say that yes backlash for sure but I can understand from your perspective because the excitement for new Puss overtook everything else maybe

You wanted to express and that can happen after holding a nut for 27 years so I’m on your side on this one buddy now you’ve sent some pretty weird text from you said the DMS are open like some of these I don’t think you expected and

That was a message to the lady listeners and you seem to be getting flooded by the dudes right now well F first off the the DMS are always open on Instagram I I never closed them they just always been open and yeah it’s mostly dudes first

Off actually I do want to say I mean a lot of people well it’s the internet you got to hear all kinds of [ __ ] but a lot of people were extremely nice I did get a lot of DM from like guys girls whatever just checking in on me wishing

Me the best it was really really nice to like have those people like you know they would genuinely like checking in on me and had very nice things to say so all those people I do want to say thank you to them that’s awesome um but yeah

It wasn’t so much about the getting know it was just it was just a step I had to take at some point you know it’s not new it’s been a couple months I told you guys what was going on it was just kind of more like to get I think part of the

Percentage is you slightly using the podcast to get new push too that’s like let’s just call Spade of spade maybe like 0% getting it out there to get it off your chest but 20% like kind of like hey let’s throw some you know let’s throw three lines in the water here now have

You had any girls reach out well he sent us one he he he he edited the picture he cropped the picture so you couldn’t see a face or a name but it was just hey r with like the tongue out Emoji I thought I was going to get like a like a picture

Of a bin or some tits or something and you’re sending us like a winky face emoi like you just got your wian sucked dude it probably a bot anyways B this [ __ ] the way Instagram is now it’s all [ __ ] bots on there yeah I mean I’m not expecting like genuine like awful

Like hey come [ __ ] come come [ __ ] pound me out of something it was like more of a jound me out have you have you maybe looked back at the like 27 28y Old range comment and thought about that that was a tad aggressive uh no no I I

Was being honest um and again like I said I was it was probably fresh in my mind because I was I don’t know that weekend I was like wasn’t going up to any girls a couple girls come over chatted I was like all right it does

Play in your head I I’m [ __ ] not stupid I know how how old I am but I did get a message with another DM from from a woman and she said thank thank you so much for saying that she goes she’s younger she’s DED an older guy she’s

I’ve been with this guy for six years he’s like about the same age range and she said thank you she’s like it’s just weird how people give a [ __ ] what other adults do on their own consensual time I mean you know 20 like women in the late

20s out little girls and it’s to say like they can’t make their own decisions it’s like oh well [ __ ] it who you to tell a woman she can’t do what she wants to do so I I did get a message from from a younger woman like wom like saggy

Balls and old men like 100% that if you’re into what you’re into then see it’s some like that’s not like I got a Target like I’m aiming for this you you asked like the lowest I like okay I’m not like that’s not like Target date just saying like if it were to present

Itself like but I’m not like okay uh [ __ ] go to a date nap 28 to like 33 age no I’m not even dude I’m not even the idea of a date right now is so [ __ ] F down the line like it’s not even where my brain is right now I swear

To God it’s just like okay it’s still like still I’m still in the here a little bit boys it’s I mean I’m free to do what I want we love you and and as far as the backlash like I know if if it it hurt your feelings at all like I said

I think your excitement to be back on the market and have this uh you know fresh new look and perspective can can be a little bit uh enlightening and and and you know you took the approach you took buddy and and we love you yeah no

Thanks buddy I love you guys too and honestly the levity I people like oh those guys are [ __ ] [ __ ] with you I was like no I I needed that levity I needed to be able to laugh with the boys about it cuz I haven’t been able to you

Know you you don’t see you know in your my age you don’t see all the guys like you used to so like I haven’t been able to like just have fun and joke around about it even though it’s a weird thing to maybe joke we weren really we weren’t

Really joking about the divorce a little bit we were joking about your like oneon-one like maybe pickup lines like there a little difference between like laughing at a divorce like it was like all right well AR’s in the bar and he’s wheeling and dealing what’s he going to

Say and and uh maybe the the game show The Bachelor Style game show uh uh maybe took over uh but I will say the response to that was pretty positive even to the point where I’ve had people who work for the league reach out and say anything

You guys need from us and Keith Yandle had an incredible idea where every single fan base would be represented so you find a girl from every city where they would wear those jerseys now we’re obviously going to have to get clearance from bman on this but we’re boys now so

I’m sure he’ll do it so we’ll have 32 to start and then we’ll cut it down from there kind of sucks that we can’t throw more Boston girls for you in the mix because I feel like that’s a match made in heaven but UL a little bit that’s

What I’m saying so I think this is this is in motion and uh we’re we’re excited about it so we can move on from this I know some fans probably had to hit the the skip 15 seconds button a bunch of times but we don’t give a [ __ ] I want to

Know what’s going on in your personal life R right yeah uh and as far as to answer your question Biz I I kind of took it easy this weekend I Popped across the street had a few and it was hilarious this like Whitney Houston I want to dance with somebody who was

Playing at the bar this girl like pointed pulled me out the dance for I was like come on well like I’m like I’m too old for this and it was kind of weird cuz I just started twirling around the floor and then all people start pulling their phones out I was like man

Can’t you let a [ __ ] just get a little disco dance [ __ ] famous you’re so love come ony get a little twirl out here a little Tony Monero [ __ ] are we going to have to get you security No No Yeah from like like the guy doesn’t let him meet his dealer like that’s security

Like blocking him from like meeting up with people not necessarily saving him from getting pictures taken cuz if people start start taking pictures already there could be some girl that says who’s that guy and then all of AR is going to turn into Kanye he’s going to start fist fighting the

Pop yikes yikes holy [ __ ] he get he gets one punched by a little cameraman oh my God all right you’re you’re the best you’re the gift that keeps on giv and this is why I want to continue to get stories about your single Antics and all this stuff because

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In with you guys you guys way out Arizona right now you have had a hell of a trip man I don’t know how you guys haven’t have don’t have Vegas voice right now you had the live stream in Chicago all the gambling stuff get a Biz

Get us up to date where you guys been up to tell the tell the [ __ ] listeners losing well they’ve been losing bets I I’m not a heavy Gambler so if I lost a couple hundred bucks over the course of March Madness so far like that’s

Probably the extent of it uh I’m not a huge gambler but getting to to witness it firsthand it was a spectacle like the the sweating it out I never really I what the [ __ ] are they talking about sweating it out so all the this verbiage

I got to see firsthand and at those uh the bar stool Chicago offices by the way what a tremendous job they did in setting that all up so that was one of the like the start to basically our week on Thursday we went there for 2 days and

I mean you were more in the mix because you’re throwing in heavy bets I think Dave por is down $2 million since I’ve seen since I first saw him Thursday like that is just an astronomical number I know it’s all relative folks but I mean not part of the small unit gang let’s

Put it that way and uh but to see like big cat and and Rico Bosco who ended up having to take a bus from New York all the way to Chicago like give us the backstory to that well the basis of that was that he um he just constantly kind

Of [ __ ] up I’d say like he just gets in his own way a little bit and the week prior during the conference tourneys right when big cat had left the stream to go home and maybe say good night to his kids Rico got on a recliner put the

Foot out and then got a blanket and curled up and went to sleep he told him he was only asleep for 3 minutes so I guess in the end it wasn’t the biggest deal but Dave was disgusted by it so he first suspended him from coming out to

The Stream on on for March Madness and then he said you know what that’s probably what he wants cuz he’ll just get to lay on the couch and watch all day so he made him hop on a bus and I think he had like 25 minutes to get to

The bus station and he hauled it down in New York and he got on a bus and all of a sudden it I I think he got to like Columbus or Pittsburgh Columbus Chicago it took him 24 hours so he walked in and and and kind of just had to stand the

Entire two days he wasn’t allowed to sit down for two days he had to be a servant he was a Serv he was a servant I wasn’t trying to take advantage of that a couple times he asked me if I wanted something but Dave and big like Rico

Coffee so he did a great job and it was one of those things where was a guy kind of learning his lesson and crushing it after that so I think that’s going to be um that could be the beginning of a of a Resurgence in Rico BOS like never making

Mistakes again now some people say I’m crazy to say that but I’m a rider but the the weekend was awesome I mean the Thursday Friday was great besides losing everything but the main reason that we were there and we’re in Scottsville was Ice con yeah now we’ve described this a

Bunch of different times I believe Elio is one of Dave’s longtime friends and he started betting overs in hockey Okay so we’ve we’ve we’ve been through this I actually asked him on the flight out how did you did you play hockey nope like how did you start betting hockey then he

Goes I lost in every other sport he gave every sport a twirl throughout his gambling career and lost in everything and then found hockey and has hit at this amazing clip probably around 65 70% winners for 2 years now on betting only overs so he wishes for goals and in the

Process of him building his following the ice people have been born now let me tell you something these people let me tell you something Deens I said it was like it was like being on an allinclusive Carnival Cruise withth nowhere to go it was just people in your

Face now wonderful people we had a meet we had a meet up before the game at the DraftKings um sports sports sports book it’s incredible it’s at TPC out here and we man the the the the ones that they’ve built so far the one in Wrigleyville was

Incredible they all they all have their different looks but like you said we just they rolled out the red carpet and everybody met there as the meeting grounds for for ice con so everyone uh 10 I think 182 people came so that included their tickets to the game that included um you

Know like all you can eat and and drink uh at DraftKings and they set it up nice half of it’s outdoors so just a cool spot and these people were great a lot of obviously chicklets ice people crossover so Biz and I and Merles were getting to meet everyone so friendly

Just like a really kind of tight group of people that just all bed overs well what happened is they started boozing naturally and and I’ll tell you right now this might have been the drunkest group of PE I thought chicklets meet and greets people were drunk I never seen

Anything like this one ice person puked on another ice person next to Porto I met the nicest guy in the world he had a pink Whitney hat on you know who you are you know I know you’re listening to this and I chatted with him for like 10 to 15

Minutes at DraftKings well then he sits next to me and I ended up putting merals between us this guy was so goddamn annoying by the end of this game hey whit you want to be here no thanks I wasn’t Dr hey wait you want to be here

No thanks the eighth time he asked me no I’m good man you’re a [ __ ] stop being a [ __ ] he’s yelling [ __ ] C cuz there’s no goals there’s an old woman next to me is just the ice people were out of control the The Ice people I never seen

Anything like it screaming yelling there was a woman next to me that somehow ended up in the middle of the ice people she’s like what is this what is ice con and I was I was like trying to explain it her face was so confused and then I

Just said we’re searching for goals and she just like she had you couldn’t even describe what we were doing there and unfortunately it lost it ended up six goals the over under was 6 and a half I got a push I had taken it for six the

Night before but it was an amazing event because to see what somebody’s grown through like truly organic game gambling and to see him win and unfortunately lose on this one but the best part of the the week for me the most memorable moment and probably the hardest I’ve

Laugh in years was in Chicago Elio was there as well and he he’s been on a horrific losing streak AR right did you see this I did yeah so so for anyone at home Dallas and Pittsburgh had he had this over under and um it was 4 to2 was it 4

To2 either way either way they needed one more goal and Sean got the puck like 30 F feet in front of the net I don’t know what happened he just missed the net so it’s like oh my God like the easiest empty net goal you’ve ever seen

And we’re losing his mind and Elio is now not sitting with us cuz he’s so stressed he’s in a phone booth at the back end of the Chicago office and people were getting behind him video he’s just this little old phone Boo from the 1950s it looked like well Sean

Misses the empty net Dallas ends up getting the puck again and Sean I don’t remember who it was were on like a little 2on one and the guy didn’t dish it he just went in put it in celebrate Elio wins the ice people win the slump

Is over and and all of a sudden as we hear Elio storming out of the phone booth let’s go let’s go I see the ref get together with the other ref and they’re going over to review it and everyone’s like what’s going on here and immediately the replay show Sean went

Offside got lazy well Elio hadn’t seen this cuz he immediately left the phone booth and so we just got to witness a man see a ghost he was I told him it’s offside Z it’s no goal yeah right yeah right and he walks to the other side of

The the the gambling cave and then he notices it and it was just a face of utter shock disbelief and disgust and I was crying laugh bad beat well that that’s why I said I got to experience all these emotions that these guys go through the unfortunately the only

Emotion I didn’t see was when you guys are on like a heater and everybody’s going crazy we didn’t get on one cuz they didn’t get on one and and collectively as a group you guys are you guys are hurting right now licking your wounds but overall uh hey I got a shout

Out to coyotes they rolled out the red carpet for us we basically took over the arena like I don’t know our seats didn’t have backs but other than that we had the red carpet that’s the student section that has nothing to do with the coyotes that’s the ASU Arena all right

All right you guys were on TV more than the [ __ ] team in the last five minutes of the 30 period they kept paying to you guys all the time like they weren’t like expressly saying what that you guys need a goal but they were like T what was bizarre was that Dallas

Went up 4 to2 with a minute 40 left so obviously you still pull the goalie You’ think especially being Arizona like what do you have to play for and they didn’t pull him right they got it in the zone and the goalie standing there and the ice people the loaded drunkest people in

Arizona pull the goalie they’re screaming and he wouldn’t do it and then all of a sudden he decided to with like 40 seconds left but pornoy thinks that somebody called down to the video room who then got on the horn with the coach was like P pull the goalie these

Lunatics are they’re going to storm the ice that didn’t happen so it was weird that they somehow didn’t pull him right off the Hop of of winning the face off down 4-2 but in the end Jamie Ben had a great attempt at the empty net just

Missed to the right and that was it I had another half shot I missed the net like I can’t even I can’t even hit the net let alone the little hole from Center Ice Biz had a tough one Dave had a tough one Elio almost scored but then

We did an intermission interview was it was a great time all right I don’t think we’re ever going to be able to recreate that moment we had Chicago the fact that you sunk one from there and this IM you were single then no no comment Whit Miss I know I still

Cannot believe that that would it I almost think they there was a magnet or something that they made that happen because I just can’t [ __ ] still believe that so I got to bring one more thing up where these guys stayed when they got to Arizona and gee you gave me

A hard time you’re like oh yeah how much they paying you when I went to that Global Ambassador and pumped its tires Whit what did you think of global ambass it’s the best hotel I’ve ever seen G there’s no texed me posha texed me the

Restaurant was 10 out of 10 one of the best meals he’s ever had the Buddy like they Biz Biz ain’t getting paid from here because this place is just like it’s like you’re in Vegas without being in Vegas and without the obviously table games and gambling but just the the

Whole vibe in there the room it was it was incredible as Biz mentioned not really my bag as a married guy I’d say maybe the most attractive group of God people even just women [ __ ] is looking around like a bird on a stoop he just like his head’s going back and forth and

It was just it why do you think I’m going to the Tha masseuse three times a week buddy my [ __ ] my Nicks as stiff as my [ __ ] walking around that place they could pitch in a tent 247 R right with your like 20 milligram Viagas it’s honestly I I the Sam Fox guy

Is a genius every restaurant there is a 10 out of 10 and uh I can’t speak more highly about it so if you ever come to Arizona go there I don’t know what rooms cost Dave did a pretty funny room review after the place in uh in in Orlando

Florida or was Tampa [ __ ] them over 5K awful sweet well this place hit it out of the park for him so I think that’s pretty much it we could talk about from iceon thanks to ELO for bringing the ice people down to Arizona shout out to the

Coyotes for rolling out the red carpet we got to take over the broadcast where this guy was saying he doesn’t care if the Dallas Stars win 71 well I was being honest they had me on coyotes I I I don’t I said I don’t care like I’m

Here for iceon we’re talking about ice con what do you Biz is like asking me like breakout questions need goals I need goals I put one on a [ __ ] tform guys I go what do the coyotes need to do in order to get to Jake ainger who’s basically [ __ ] blocking ice con because

He was making tell that paddle save he made basally one of the saves of the year one of the saves of the Year anyone hasn’t seen that so he’s starting to heat up but overall Dallas looks incredible that was there was it was it

Was hard for ER Iona to get to the goal so no no no no seven pop and unfortunately some people got the line at six and a half but six is what you got it yeah yeah the night before and I’ll say about Dallas like I first time

Getting to see stankoven live water bug I didn’t realize how tiny he is him and Wyatt Johnson playing with Jamie Ben it’s hilarious it’s like it’s like the old man and his two kids it’s like it’s like Gordy how playing with with Mark and the other like it just but they Buzz

Around Ben had a nice goal in the first one from from Wyatt Johnson but um hinan I if you could ever go see Dallas play live like this guy is the smoothest cat I’ve ever I know we always talk about Mar and Hughes heskin and he had a

He made it 42 with a rocket Slap Shot or maybe 3-2 I don’t remember but the way he moved Merles and I the whole time were just like look at him he’s so fluid but his hands are unre like that guy just has it all I love that Dallas team

The warry was ainger for a while kind of being off this game but he had one of I bet you if you asked him last night was the best game of the season cuz Arizona outplayed him he made a couple 10 Bell saves and the and and the Stars seem

Legit they they have every makings of a cup champ yeah definitely wide open right now like I said we don’t know who’s going to play who yet still got a long ways to go but a G uh big Wednesday fight coming up tomorrow I should say

North Dakota on the old chicklet U yeah chicklet U drops Wednesday North Dakota the holy graa College hockey we got in the mixure with the fans hit the tents before the game uh we saw the insane marble floor same one as the Vatican uh zero gravity beds red light therapy high

Altitude rooms it’s all in there so Wednesday 6 p.m. it’s dropping and what a Time the the college tournament starts this week so it’s going to be awesome hey since we’re on the college topic and we’re going to save it to the end of the pody I’ve been getting a lot of [ __ ]

DMS that you spoke out of turn saying that unb would have no chance against a top NCAA Division I will take back that I agreed with him and after talking to a couple guys that I’m friends with that played and going over their records against big schools that like Minnesota

And Michigan they played I should have never said they had no chance I think it’d be a pretty good game minute let’s go over their record since 2016 I’m talking about a different guy that played like 10 years ago that they played like like I I think that for the

Most part there’s more way more skill on the NCAA champ but these guys are older and these guys are stronger for the most part and in the end for us to say no chance we were incorrect I’d say yeah we were definitely in correct to say no

Chance I would say I mean the statistics fall towards that they they wouldn’t win a game against a national championship I think they could hold their own against a top 20 team top 15 team even but I mean since 2016 2017 they’ve played six games against NCAA opponents they’re one

And five they’ve lost to meramac UNH lost to BC they’ve beaten Maine five to nothing in 2019 when they weren’t really too good so I definitely hear you Biz they I mean their leading goal scorer Austin Keaton he’s 25 he played 5 years in the then he played three years at un

Guys are old as [ __ ] that’s that’s a Quin Pak Jr that might even be a a red shirted freshman at Quinn a Pak for all we know [ __ ] with his 16 kids oh fireman on the side I I think okay so when was the last time they played an

NCAA team 2019 it this is according to their website as well so 2019 was the last time they played they were 26 and four That season so they were one of the best teams in US Sports they lost bc42 since 2019 I think that’s since unb has

Been on this insane run where they’ve been like a joke for two or three years kind of like the Yukon women’s basketball team where they’re just like running over teams I mean in 2019 they were 26 and4 they were the best team in US Sports same with 2018 25- 5 2017 24-6

Like I I hear what you’re saying I think this team is separate from those teams this team I think this year could hold their own with an NCAA team I will I will that’s all I wanted I just wanted to hear a little bit of respect for the

Unb boys given the Run they’re on right now and uh I’m sure you boys are celebrate having fun don’t have too much fun because we might get this game set up somehow I don’t know uh I know you’re not a big F that game’s never happening it’s never never happen Okay well I’m

Not saying I wouldn’t want to see it I would love to see it it’s just it would never happen the seasons are over like it just it makes no sense for the NC it makes no sense for the NCAA team to do it it’s like a lose lose for them what

Could happen is that those guys line up a legit exhibition schedule prior to the season they could probably get two or three NCAA that’s what they should be trying to do and with their record and how much they dominated in the past being out there it would be crazy for a good NCAA

Team that wants a nice test before the season not to bring them down and give it a go maybe another they did it every year they they had done it every single year until really Co happened and once Co happened it kind of stopped but I think I wouldn’t be surprised in the

Next year or two if they get back so blame Trudeau exactly blame for everything yeah 38-0 uh and actually 5-0 in the preseason too so they went 43 and0 didn’t give up a freaking goal in the tournament that’s an absolute insane year so congrats once again to the

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Though TOS back in the news once again Biz uh this time he scratches Captain h Sean ctor not once but twice last week now ctor he’s been struggling a bit hadn’t had a goal in uh 27 games before scratch one assist in his last nine games before the scratch uh his minutes

Went down about four minutes per game from January to mid-march first Captain scratch uh since the jovo cup Eddie Jovanovski back in the 134 season which was his last uh season in the NHL because like does this affect the room at all when a guy scratching a captain

Did they take it in stride what kind of like ripple effect could this potentially have in the walls of the Flyers locker room yeah big time um I think it does show that like you nobody’s safe though and torz doesn’t give a [ __ ] and I think at first when I

Like I first heard heard it break Whit I don’t know what your reaction as a player like I think if like Shane Don when he was my captain if he would have been handled that way I would have had animosity towards the coach because I I

Viewed it as a little bit like not only disrespectful but like the way it was kind of publicly handled like a like a good coach might say hey we’re going to say that you have a a lower body injury or something like maybe protect him in some way because he is struggling keep

In mind he’s coming back from a [ __ ] like some a lot of mtime and injuries so we always talk about these college kids coming in having played 40 42 games the year before like man getting back into that 82 game schedule rhythm is difficult and he’s going up against

Topline matchups night in and night out so nonetheless after I kind of calmed down and even uh a former player of torts the binsky had a very inflammatory tweet so I think that he kind of agreed with my initial sentiments he ended up sending me a direct message later on

Where I think that he was probably his wheels were spinning and the more he thought about it was like well maybe I’m not as emotionally invested in what’s going on in Philly and what what they’ve accomplished this year and what torz has put into that team like who am I to say

Torz handled it wrong like he knows the pulse of that locker room more than anyone and of the in the two games he was out they got three or four points and and you know I’m not saying that’s that decision was the reason but I think

It probably sent an alert in the locker room like holy [ __ ] these scratching coochs like like anybody’s [ __ ] available am am I wrong here wh so like originally and initially I was kind of like that’s [ __ ] [ __ ] but the more I dialed it back it’s like well

This guy’s putting his heart and soul into it and sometimes I feel like torz his Antics may come across as if he’s making it more about himself sometimes than than the team but I genuinely don’t think that that’s where he’s at I think he’s just so mentally wrapped up into it

And he’s a Savage like that and UL ultimately he thinks he knows best about his personnel and I can’t argue with what he’s done with the Personnel in which he’s had this season the fact that this team is in a playoff spot has everybody just as probably perplexed

Especially at the fact they lost their starting [ __ ] golender as probably Washington being in a playoff spot yeah the the whole aspect of the scratching it was so surprising to me and then when you think about it and look more into it and know it’s torts

It’s like he doesn’t care he does not give a flying [ __ ] who it is he will scratch anyone truly the guy was named captain about 30 days prior to this okay so if you take aide and don’t even really discuss yet the actual scratching of the player my problem with it is

Tor’s approach in the media okay you have every right to scratch him and as bis mentioned you get three or four points you kind of understood this guy isn’t doing his job I don’t really care who it is I’m scratching him well man you’re the head coach you got to go

Out there you can’t scratch him and then say to the media I’m not talking about it I’m not giving you anything and on top of how he handled it with the media probably more so I should have mentioned how he handled it with cier he didn’t

Even have a discussion with him and if you’re going to scratch a rookie or a third or fourth liner I can see coaches being like hey assistant coach tell him he’s out I don’t care I don’t need to talk to him I wouldn’t really do it like

That I’m not a coach and I who am I to say but I would I would I would have le like like to think I’d have a conversation with each guy hey this is what I’m thinking you’re going to get another chance whatever Sean C has been there his

Entire career he was just named captain and you can’t sit down and talk to him I mean r you sent us the quotes was that was that C’s agent yes that was his agent yeah like but like that that’s that’s that’s a lack of respect and like

If Flyers fans were going at dubinsky and kind of going at anyone who was chirping the the the scratch and they look at like we’re in we’re in the playoffs right now we were supposed to to be in the lottery like we’re kind of ride or die for torch cuz without him in

Their mind they’re not where they are which which is probably true I don’t know if there’s another coach that could have these guys where they’re at because of how he approaches things but you have to have the ability as a longtime head coach to have the respect and

Understanding that cout is going to want to sit down and at least hear it from you and hear why and hear exactly your thought process on not only causing a ruckus in the locker room but causing a ruckus for him within the media this is C I’m talking about because this guy now

Is answering all these questions about getting scratch and he’s sitting there saying well I don’t even know why I’m getting scratched so so going back to the communication aspect this could be just as much as like couturier maybe his body’s not feeling good right and maybe we’re playing has been struggling we got

To be honest he hasn’t played well he has right and and let’s say ra now all of a sudden he can go to the coach and say hey maybe I can play in that 14 15 minute range maybe even a little bit less on that based on how he’s feeling I

Would imagine he not playing well cuz he’s not feeling well as far as maybe his body to some degree that would be my assumption there’s no real other reason as to the fact that he’s in a pretty big slump like I think like in that 10 game stretch before he got stratch scratched

He was minus 15 so that’s when it comes down to the communication the way he handles it but as far as torz and the and the reason that I Believe In some cases he has a short shelf life is he seems to maybe even take it a little bit

Personal where he’s like this [ __ ] is going to play like this in the stretch where we need him most and he’s our [ __ ] captain and he’s going to you know be minus 15 in the last 10 games and you know no goals in the last 27 and in still of having a go

A conversation he thinks that coutu’s play is speaking for him so my assumption is it festers up it festers up and he’s like [ __ ] that I’m scratching him as opposed to I’d be the type of Coach but I also we joked around about the whole Nashville Predators

Thing like I would have been the softy coach to be like all right we’re going on the field trip but you guys better start playing better right I’m not I don’t have that type of mentality where I can maybe go above and beyond if I had

A captain and and and I’ve watched the the coaches that I’ve had communicate with their captains like you need to be locked in on what’s the the pulse of the locker room your communication has to be like top tier so the fact that it was

Handled the way it was in the media and and Couer being a lifelong flyer was somewhat disrespected in my opinion that’s why as a teammate of his I would have been like [ __ ] this but torz could also be playing 3D chess here and knowing a last Stitch effort for a last

Season push is I’m going to rile these [ __ ] up scratching their captain and they’re going to be in the lock roomp saying we’re I ain’t doing this for [ __ ] torts her Brook style her Brook style and it was the same way that Daryl Sutter used to do it they

[ __ ] hated him in La you think he gave a [ __ ] his job was to make sure the players on the ice were galvanized my favorite new word and then they won two Stanley Cups that’s all that [ __ ] matters and torz has done it before in

Tampa and I bet you if you pulled those guys uh 75% the way through the season in Tampa the year they won the cup they would have probably told you if this guy got fired tomorrow I probably wouldn’t care because I [ __ ] can’t stand them um dubinsky tweet the one thing I wanted

To bring up and and as a former player this is exactly how I kind of looked at it where he mentioned at the end you bring him in he’s the captain you say hey you’re playing 18 Minutes tonight go out play loose play free and just

[ __ ] give it and and like as a player like yes that’s all I want but there is another side of that where torz is one of those guys that’s you’re not playing through slumps with torz he’s never been that way remember when he talked we talked to hartel about him getting

Scratched he does you don’t play through slumps with torts there’s coaches that’ll let guys play through it now my thing is let the captain play through it torz doesn’t give one [ __ ] so in the end he said you’re going to sit down and what’s really hard is then they they

They they won the first one right or they lose an over they beat Toronto so then you can’t switch the lineup and then they lost in overtime but got a point and he gets back in so in the end it’s it’s about I know I just said in the end again But in the end I have a tick I have a tick saying in the end it doesn’t even matter in the end we’re galvanized as a podcast yes we are yes we are now that ra single we’re even more galvanized we’re the two single ones the two single

Bucks has play he hasn’t played in five years but his PTSD is still still pretty strong post TS [ __ ] stress disorder man he abolutely [ __ ] hates that guy and as far as like you know not putting him out there again I mean what what toiny said put him out there for 20 I

Mean to probably knows if he does that it’s it’s not going to help the team at that particular stage I mean saying is you’re essentially calling him in ra and saying like I believe in you I know you’ve been struggling we don’t really need to talk about it you’re aware of it

I’m I’m going to put you 20 out there I need your best effort and like knowing that and sometimes feeling that confidence from your coach is sometimes what a player needs like it right like if you feel that your coach is providing you confidence and actually believes in

You you play completely different and this is why we wanted to start the podcast today with this because this ain’t a pH Philadelphia Flyer topic it’s just like a a coach and player relationship and it just seems like maybe 80% of the time when we’re talking about them it’s torz related right so

It’s well there’s not a lot of old school guys left and old school guys they did not care or think about putting confidence in players that wasn’t ever their job they were like Michelle Terry John toell Mike Keenan they Wen those guys were never sitting down you’re playing unbelievable

Buddy keep going that’s not how it went and that is how I bet you I bet you carbur and Washington’s had discussions with the guys this year buddy you’re going right now keep going and it’s just a different mentality torz will never be that way and and and his success this

Year as Flyers fans have been vocal about speaks for itself like they don’t really care how the players are treated by the coach if they win that’s all the and in the end the players just want to I said in the end again what the [ __ ]

Wrong with me nothing buddy if I say it again you get to like give me if I say it again sometimes I have crutch words you get to give me a sack whack oh oh that’s how that’s how adamant I am I’m not saying it again this

Podcast I don’t think you should feel bad about that sometimes I have crutch words when uh when I’m talking about this this is three this is three words all right all either way man the Flyers they’ve been still been surprising people and I hope toz gets that Jack

Adams maybe 50 to1 all right boys we got to move along to the Nashville Predators this is unbelievable uh they had back-to-back shutouts over Florida then Detroit they’re now 15 0 and2 in the 17 games since the You2 coner at the sphere was canceled uh they’ve essentially

Locked up that first wild card spot in the west uh 99.6 chance to make the playoffs and we were supposed to have a predator on with us today uh the youngster Luke Evangelista but I think the team realized like they don’t want to mess with this K right now they’re on

A heat don’t have a guy talking about they heard my take on the the [ __ ] stamp on the jersey for the red wings and they’re like hey we got a stretch going on right now we don’t need the spit and chickle [ __ ] stamp right now I

Could just see like uh the the head of media relations being like hey Mr trots um Luca is going to do a interview like with who he’s like chicklet he’s like no [ __ ] no he ain’t going on those [ __ ] there’s no chance are you kidding me we’re 150 and2

And you’re going on chicklets oh my God but you know what evangelis has been an awesome to watch and this entire team it’s been a magical run it’s been one of those things that um as as much as the you’s fear story became a big headline like some things do get groups together

And some things get guys to kind of all push in One Direction and they’ve been on fire but without without Roman Yosi oh my God this guy this this is not happening okay like we got since that game all right so since the ‘s sphere the 92 drubbing at home by the Dallas

Stars he’s got 23 points in 17 games he’s playing close to half the game he plays the all the power play the penalty kill the last minute if you need a goal and you’re down by a goal and it’s a true number one defenseman that is just

Pushing his way so at Hedman or yosi’s getting ho this year on finalist of the Norris one of those guys isn’t going to be in the top three and one of those guys is going to have a legit gripe about not being in there but Roman Yosi

Probably is leading the pack on packing passing headman cuz it’s always later in the year it’s the Cory Perry heart trophy year where he dragged his team into the playoffs and he had 23 goals in the last 23 games whatever it was to get 50 to get the the heart trophy so it’s

Doing it later in the year matters more so I think it’s kind of a a done deal that he’ll be in the top three but this guy has just lived up to everything that anyone ever expected and more I mean he came into the league and he had a great

Shot he could move and he could pass and it’s like we’ll go into Zack Heyman L later like guys get better and better and better and a lot of times as a scout you’re wondering like where’s his ceiling and I think there was people within Nashville that that knew like

This kid hasn’t even touched his yet in the first few years and then you know some guys leave Ellis isn’t there all these defenseman end up leaving PK was there he’s gone and you’re getting a bigger role and it’s like he’s he’s somehow turning into one of the best

Defenseman the best defenseman the Predators have ever had no doubt no doubt he’s better than him versus Shay Weber you got look at it now I was just going to say their track record of of drafting and developing defenseman during that period of time when they got

What sud in there they had Seth Jones Weber Weber um Yosi the fact that like atol the fact did you just say Ellis yeah Ellis was another good one so the fact and some of these weren’t drafted there they were more like scooped up in trades and also no they were all drafted

There all those guys Ryan Ellis was oh really oh I think so but regardless I guess the point I’m making the fact that they ended up moving on from all all those guys and ended up just you know keeping him and him turning into the player he has you said that true number

One and year over year he’s like a top five defenseman every time the the best component to his game though and it’s such a relief the fact that he can get out of his own by himself he’s a oneman breakout he gets put below the goal line

In his corner he goes back and he’s such a big guy so I don’t know how he’s shimmy shaking these guys and making a Miss but just as far as overall skill and assets man this guy is top tier and dragging this team into playoffs like brunette’s done a tremendous job the

Second half of the Season obviously finally getting adjusted to the to the team and and and the and the players that he has but just I mean forsberg’s light in the lamp they were questioning on whether they should bring him back at the money that he was requesting what a

Move like that I would say that one came down to the end because I don’t even think he signed before the season had finished he didn’t so that that was a huge risk going potentially in a free agency and losing that guy a 40 goal man and he’s been everything is advertised

And and they continue to roll but what’s crazy like he he’s got 40 once and early he came into the league in like his third fourth fifth year he had he had 82 games played then he was missing 15 18 games like 18 games like he missed a

He’s missed a ton of time when he’s healthy he’s one of the top guys in the NHL he’s so big one of those dudes who maybe doesn’t look like the fastest player but is buzzing by people you know we talk about because he’s so big and strong his shots amazing he’s got some

Go through his highlight re goals his top goals I mean they’re they’re incredible the Michigan moves like the the the one-on-one movement beating defenseman his shots unreal so he’s been carrying the load offensively up front I I think that in the end it’s it’s when you have

A star forward like that a star defenseman what happened oh no what oh no what he said in the end again so I have to give him a little nuts we’ll do it after the show you got write me a check I’m getting a nut whack and it’ll

Be on video I don’t think it’s that I think that you’re pointing out I’ve said it seven times this show been on the horn for 40 minutes what do you think posha is such a prick too he was just listening he’s like he was like Leo

DiCaprio in that scene and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood whatever they have a star goalie they have a star defenseman they have a star forward the whole team’s gotten together and just rallied around not getting to go to the sphere and do drugs with ra and it’s a special run I

Don’t know if if they’re in my mind like super dangerous in the playoffs though it’s because it’s a deep team but there’s not a ton of offense after a few guys so if you if you’re able to beat their goal tending which is harder than way easier said than done I don’t know

If they get out of the first round I I I I I think it’s like one of these amazing runs but then you run into a top end team with with a lot more Talent up front it’s going to be difficult for them no matter how well they’ve played

In the regular season R uh if they do go on a magical run I think it would be fitting and this was a comment from Jeff they would have have to get you two to play at the parade correct well it probably cost him a

Pretty penny by the way a little part of that story Biz that the day after the think you don’t think you don’t think it’d be cheap no not not at all but the day after the concert they didn’t go to like when when they they they had a

Morning skate away they were going back to the locker room and some unnamed player played I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For You know the famous you song in the locker room I guess the whole [ __ ] locker room just started pissing their pants laughing all good

And that’s when that’s when they’ve gone on the streak and we can’t mention forsburg without talking about that fight this weekend with moida I mean that was one of the best fights of the Year probably one of the most unlikeliest fights of the Year those two

Guys going at it and forsberg talked to a he goes yeah we just you know two guys battling and he said you know I I got in the early goes that he just took over I mean side is a big kid I mean forsberg up taking a bit of a beating there but

He took you know he took the questions after that was a hell of a fight I don’t think anybody I love the fact that you brought that up but those are just like two high-end skill players who who compete and sometimes the wires cross when I mean cider’s a guy if you’re

Going to the net he’s giving you a little [ __ ] like two-handed cross check in the rib area he has that old school element and forsberg had probably seen enough of it and like you say I thought that cider got the best of him but shout out to forsberg for chucking

Him with cider man that was Cid’s first fight he did great job and he switched from right to left it looked like he drilled him with the left but there was no marks on forsberg’s face after but for your first fight I was like holy [ __ ] this kid can Chuck him both hands

He saw Lucas Raymond in practice he says I can do that too [ __ ] yeah this [ __ ] filmed the the cinematography right right right on the glass that was a tremendous [ __ ] job filming that fight too Biz the one vide there what a job they’ve done down in in Nashville we

Talked about that sustain relevance uh and I’m drawing a blank on on the old GM’s name who uh steep down David po po like he had that stretch run and to hand the keys over to trots and now the job that he’s done in that this is this

Right now that’s a retool that’s not a rebuild that’s a retool and on the Fly done quickly Bravo to the Nashville Predators organization I love seeing these like smaller markets in the mix this has been an incredible race how about MCD though like what a valuable piece that gu wherever he goes Rangers

Tampa they just win character guy that never takes a night off like B when you and I played when we got there were nights off well I didn’t have a choice I didn’t have a choice I didn’t I didn’t either by the end but there were nights like I wasn’t purposely doing it

But I was like this guy’s a noow t you were probably thinking about every MCD if if there’s a night he’s like struggling with the Pug he’s like all right I’ll just block every shot and Hammer a couple guys in the D you’re like ah not my night I was like yeah I

Don’t have it tonight I don’t have it tonight guys yeah Biz not sure if you want to call your pal I Nick cousins back up but he finally dropped the gloves him and zucka went at it he did the answer the Bell I’m sure you were happy to see that but

I got nothing against cousins yeah I mean I love it I think that it’s great it’s it’s a it’s an element to our game this season has literally had everything and the league needed a rat to step up and and be the villain and he did and Bravo to him and

I hope that he gets a [ __ ] four-year deal at 1.5 from some team and it might be in Florida because he’s the ring leader of the hyenas I thought it was also a great stop and and uh and Zucker with his new team man he’s you know that

Was a good trade quiet too another quiet one kind of like the Anthony duclair one although he’s Tau as a pistol Tamp Tampa isre right now um yeah the the Zucker move it didn’t really make many ways but you’re also happy for him like seeing Arizona yesterday that’s a tough go

Right now and he’s played in the league a long time so he gets to go right into the mix of a of a team that’s on this unreal rise they’re in the they’re going to get in the playoffs and he gets to be a part of something special so to make

You know he’s got two goals in seven games and he got a fight so a fight against the most hated player in the league so he’s fitting in perfectly with them all right before we go any further here’s a few words from our friends at game time what’s up everyone just checking

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He’s been this year Detroit looked absolutely lost him he got back in the lineup Thursday led the wings to a big 6-3 win over the Islanders put him right back in the playoff position but Biz I know you want to talk about Lucas Raymond he’s been a huge reason why the

Rings is still in a playoff position right now as well uh 60 points in 71 games this kid’s only going to be 22 on Thursday so much [ __ ] potential down the line there was also the the practice Skirmish Biz like how much does that Galvanize a team when there’s a fight in

Practice and and you know new said it was productive for the team that that they were caring they hatte that you know that they’re [ __ ] That animated that that [ __ ] so I got to take it over I got [ __ ] my brain no no you don’t buddy you’re [ __ ] fired up just

Like Lucas Raymond was in those [ __ ] battle drills and at this point in the season when things aren’t going well you need you can’t be doing just like the morning skate practices you got to get to the basics and the foundation of of winning hockey and and to me that just

Shows you’re competing in practice but even when you’re having winning stretches of hockey you’re and you’re practicing like that fights can arise like winning teams have them all the time so as far as Lucas Raymond man he has stepped to the next level if you’re

A Wings fan you got to be over the moon and one of the most rapid fan bases online to because I was pumping Patty Kane’s tires when he scored the OT winner the other night [ __ ] 40 of them down my throat saying Lucas Raymond why aren’t you Tweeting about Lucas

Raymond well we’re [ __ ] give him his double wrer now and he’s everything is advertised and and just an unbelievable skill set he’s got that low center of gravity he moves with such fluidity on the ice do you like that word fluidity fluidity I brought you guys out for the

I brought that out for the wings fans out there brought the vocab out but he’s been great sweds are just money they’re always so cool they’re good defensively I I’m pretty sure that Raymond um stuck around Detroit this summer to train too yeah and and that’s like a big thing

Right like sometimes guys want to go back home especially if you’re from Europe and like all right let me just get get away see my family and friends and he’s like no I want to get better I want to be be around this organization so they know that I’m invested and

That’s going to be a a interesting interesting storyline seeing the cider and Raymond’s deal deals we talked about this a couple weeks ago and both of them have just ramped it up Raymond’s awesome and I I remember remember I was all over him for getting rookie of the year

Instead of um bunting when bunting was 38 and won it it was a part of the the the final race but I I think Wings fans are more more than anything they’re just rabid they’re intense they want to see love for their players and their team

But we have to we have to be hon like that that run they went on like what are you going to say anything good about there’s nothing to say good about him and that fight gets him going I don’t think it’s going to be the blues having

A fight with berzo who did he fight that year sford and going on and winning the Stanley Cup but they’ve turned it around since then and it’s minor things it’s little things that guys are pissed off but you’re still buddies I think after they fought that night they were in The

Penalty Box together actually um sherro and and Raymond so it’s just one of those things the guys compete hard the coaches love seeing that at least it means they care The Good the good news about their contracts there’s no way he’s making more than uh Dylan Lin and

You touched on him like when you first brought this up like he’s their MVP I don’t the League this year has had some guys go sicko mode so there’s no way he can be in the conversation but he means everything to that team and the fact

That they got him locked up at what it was eight years 9.5 maybe even 9.25 that’s the standard for the team I would say that the fact that the uh you know he’s there they probably end up getting Lucas Raymond probably 8 8 and a. half million on an 8-year deal which

In a few years will be an absolute bargon and you look at all these other guys who might be getting handed that this guy is a for sure eight times eight guy not one of these fugazi yeah right now the wings a point back at Washington the second he makes

Larin 87 Oh I thought he was I didn’t think it was overnight yeah okay well there you go so he’s coming in under there R that’s the precedent so they got uh they’re going to have a few nice contracts to lock in the ray the ray

Book rule yeah the wings point back of Washington right now for the second Wild Card caps do have a game in him but they have a huge game tonight uh big game see what happens there but speaking of the capitals I mean oetkin started off real

Slow but he’s been on an absolute heat lately eight goals over a five game span I know we’ve been talking about the Caps it’s just so like improbable what this team has been doing oetkin 848 goals right now he needs 47 to break Gretzky’s record uh he also cracked the 20 goal

Mark once again became the only player in NHL history to record 19 consecutive 20 goal Seasons his uh6 goals game it doesn’t even sound that crazy until you think about it 19 years in a row playing in the league for nine years is impressive that’s cuz I did that so I

Had to throw that in but 20 like and how many of those are 30 ah I don’t know I didn’t count them off I count as the record make it too do too much math you do inter in note about Obie guys they were talking Kobe coin was kobby Cohen was talking

About it on his show this morning apparently before the season started he completely changed his stick specs I don’t know I’ve I’ve been told that you know CCM actually stopped making his old stick and they didn’t make any more for him to last out the rest of his career

But apparently curv whether it’s curve or lie he has completely different stick W that’s the second time it’s happened to a capital do you guys remember when this happened to uh Mike Green the year that he had like 30 tuxes of it was the blue uh Synergy it was the stealth the

Blue Synergy stealth and he had a bomb with this thing and I believe it was even at a come playoff time they just didn’t have any left so he had to switch sticks and all of a sudden he went cold at that time but interesting uh it was

The same thing a few years ago with Phil kessle where all of a sudden they discontinu uh Martin St Louis we had him on our podcast he used that yellow Synergy forever and all of a sudden you’re so used to it and your muscle memory it’s so embeded to your brain

That the slightest change in whether it’s a flex torque your lie or whatever it may be and how it kicks that could be the difference and you talked about a slow start he had had slow starts before a few where he hadn’t started the season with scoring in the first like four

Games and then went on to win the Rocket this year there was like a long period of time we’re like oh my God is this guy like done like is this guy we’re going have to wheel him out here in Four Seasons from now to like cross the goal

Line for the goal record now we’re looking at this thing happening at the back half of next season I still think he’s going to get 30 he might even get 40 this year and some of you think ah here comes a hot take from Biz well if

You’ve been watching their games 15 and 21 I think that they’ve been instructed nobody shoot on net and only pass to oie because if you saw Dylan stro in that grade A scoring opportunity where he decid break he had a breakaway the defenseman had Dove towards oie and he

Still kept pump faking pump faking pump faking and then he finally slid it over so by the way I tweeted after that I said I tweeted the video and said when you don’t want to get screamed in Russian when you get back to the Ben and

Capitals feel no he’s a great teammate I was like holy [ __ ] it Jesus it was a joke maybe the joke wasn’t great but in the end he scored oh I said it cuz you said it but but but I was going to say all right it’s every

Year not including this one it’s every year over 30 besides 2021 in which he only played 45 games and he had 24 this year he’ll get 30 he needs four more he’s got 15 goals in his last 21 games the stick thing’s interesting because the stick manufacturers and those guys

And the Reps for all the companies they’ll tell you and they’re not lying they’re being just bought the manufacturer that used to make them by the way over the over the news channel he said they’ll say they’re the exact same everything the exact same but it doesn’t matter one they can’t be the

Same if it’s different model and two once it’s in the player’s mind that it’s not like you can’t beat that feeling of there’s something different about this twig you know the two of the biggest Li lies in hockey told are like uh you’re only going down to the miners for a week

And your sticks are in the mail like these these stick rep guys they’ll tell you anything they want to hear but there’s another lie to that but I’m not going to tell it I’ll tell you off camera what do you mean does it’s it’s the three

Lies but I I I I’ll have tell if you ever run into me ask me but it’s not the right time to drop it I’ll say that um so Obie is just proving all of us kind of to be morons once again the best the best goal recently was when he stole it

Off McMichael stick who was in the process of trying to rip one cheese and just grabbed it right before he released it they actually shot at the same time but it hit oie’s stick at the uh closer to the net and he got another one so I

Don’t know how I I think if they get in the playoffs they’re going to get swept I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer for capitals fans none of this makes any sense but it’s an awesome storyline no matter what shout out to shout out to O’s physician for crying out loud this

Guy’s just working overtime couple clicks for ob’s physician boys yeah I wasn’t sure on 30 goals but uh he’s had 50 at least 50 and nine of his 19 Seasons so far so I did have that one written down his 6 60 goals per game same as Wayne Gretzky uh the best among

Active players 65 from uh Austin Matthews no surprise there would you would you not say that like could Carberry win coach in the playoff took the words out of my mouth Biz took the words right out of my mouth if you look at rosters now if you went into the season everybody would

Have said Philly especially with the with the goenda with Carter Hart that Philly was probably ahead of Washington in the standings say that again would you have assumed that most people would have said that Flyers had a better team and were more likely to finish ahead in

The standings no dud the Flyers were considered bottom five team in the leag okay well that’s why I’m going to speculating on coach of the year so you if if both Philly and Washington make it do you think one of those guys deserves it or do you guys believe it should be a

Guy with a top team like Vancouver it is a good argument to say that if somehow Philly and Washington get in torz might deserve it more based on that it’s been all season long right like Washington had they started decent then they went then they went the [ __ ] where it’s

Like they both didn’t have a chance in making the playoffs Flyers more so than the caps but most people didn’t have either team in and then the Flyers have been in it the entire time so it’s kind of like consistency as a coach would lean towards torz but carbury being the

First year guy there and this being like making no sense I think it would hurt more that their stats are so ridiculous that their goal differentials that bad and they’re in it that almost like helps torz in away for coach of the year do you know what I mean I agree with you

And and also we didn’t even mention this part the fact that they’ve won the last couple with that you’re in the midst of this wild card run trying to get a playoff spot and you use lose probably in my opinion your most versatile and and dominant power forward in Tom Wilson

Six game sussy we haven’t talked about that right no no we have not that’s a devastating blow man he’s that this time of the year is when you need that guy in the lineup he does absolutely everything yeah was it looked like sort of a reactionary High stick on on Noah Gregor

Of Toronto I was surprised he got six games I know will little bit of a TR I wasn’t because it was him what’s that what because it was him I wasn’t it was such a weird play because if you watch it in slow motion it it

Looks pretty bad I I I think yeah he was just uh slinging his stick around just trying to get and obviously it’s way too high like I’m sorry there’s Tom Wilson haters out there and I’ve said a million times I if I’m running a team I want him

On my team I think every GM would say that but even you people who hate Tom Wilson There is no chance he meant to swing a stick into his face swinging his stick like that is reckless he’s looking to get his arm there or his body and it

Was just way too high and caught him directly in the face in the head but he’s not trying to do that but being Tom Wilson and his past and like how he’s thought of around the league I I figured it was at least five or six and then you

Saw the inperson hearing and my suspension game has been top titty lately calling the REM one and knowing that one I said it to G I think that’s five games so I guess it’s not that top titty if I didn’t even get it right all

Right boy you had it you actually hit it on the nail on the head you you said four oh Ry I no I’m saying Wilson oh okay yeah I thought it was a little more than I expected but either way uh all right boys I think we should send it

Over to our interview now this guy was a former capital but he made his name here in Boston so uh without further Ado we’re going to send it over to Jason Allison great interview this is a guy who people hadn’t heard from him for a long time so I know Bruins fans are

Dying a hair from as well as the rest of the NHL fans because it’s a great interview so enjoy Jason Allison all right before we go any further here’s a few words from our friends at Bama this episode is brought to you by Bama zero sugar the brand new zero sugar sports

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The body armor store on Amazon get yours today once again body armor zero sugar get rehydrated recover get a great taste and beverage all right I’d like to welcome our next guest a guy used to rof fall way back in the day Biz an incredible passer this Center was taken 17th

Overall by Washington at the 90 three draft after a few stints with the capitals he was traded to Boston in a blockbuster deal and blossomed as a number one center after 5 years in Boston he was traded to La where he spent two seasons then finished up with

His hometown Maple e it’s a joy to Welcome to the spit and chickets podcast Jason Allison how you been my man it’s been a long time been good been good yeah that’s it that’s all you got are coming see you guys tomorrow so what you been up to man it’s

Been a while for Real uh yeah I when I finished I kind of herited for a little bit and had a horse farm up in King City and um did a little bit of thorough bread stuff just have some fun uh ran a minor hockey Organization for a while oh

So you dealt with some crazy oh yeah that’s why you stopped really crazy um and then you know about six years ago moved back to LA and uh started doing some movie stuff some uh production company so that’s kind of where I’m at now kids playing sports and just kind of

Doing doing the thing you know what got you into the production stuff you know that’s a good question I I started with uh kind of developing a a a hockey TV series to be honest and then just kind of wared it was really weird I got into a movie called

Arkansas um with Vince Von Liam Hemsworth and John malovich and um you know enjoyed it and liked it started learning it and uh just kind of rolled with it so while you were playing or younger like this was never something postc career I’ll do that like this just

Totally kind of came out of nowhere no I mean I I think for me it was always like hockey was the only thing ever yeah that that was kind of how you visioned it and that’s why you were so good at it and yeah you never picture the end you know

And um you know and you do you’re you’re having these Grand dreams of doing stuff with all your buddies and whatever you know that kind of really doesn’t usually work out either um so you miss some stuff right obviously and you know that trying to do something hard something uh

Tough to accomplish get and something you don’t know right like it’s so you haven’t done anything else well it’s it right and it’s like what do you do right it’s uh I think it’s tough for a lot of guys um coming out it’s uh it’s you know

You have all this passion and fire toward something and then it’s gone and yeah you know it’s funny I knew I’d miss the guys in the locker room and all you know doing stupid [ __ ] and whatever but um you know the getting ready to compete and the fire and putting that passion

Somewhere really was a big missing gap for myself anyway you’re never going to ever [ __ ] duplicate it no you just hope to try to chase it but but it’s funny CU I’m guessing that if if that’s how it it ended when you went away a little bit you probably weren’t even

Watching hockey huh or no I really I really wasn’t I I’d watched the playoffs just cuz and you know I you can’t still had some of my boys that you’re cheering for and stuff like that um but I didn’t go to a game for like 10 years and I

Remember the first game I went to in Toronto like the national anthem and everything happening just kind of fired me up a bit too and you know you know I just so when you when you ended you just kind of wanted to go away you didn’t

Really want to see it at all for a little bit like was it just cuz it was hard hard to step away and it I think two sorry I think two it was you know a little bit of a tough ending for me in the sense of you know I had a neck

Injury that kind of kept me out in La there for a year and a half and then the lockouts I almost missed like two and a half years there came back played a year and I had a point a game I was doing okay I broke my hand in a fight at with

20 games to go and so all you know I was kind of on path to come back I was only 32 at the time um and you know I had my uh two oldest half the time and we were in Toronto and my head still was wasn’t right and

My neck was giving me problems and I was just kind of like I flew out to New York to do some you know interviews and talk to teams and stuff and uh was the Islanders actually but um and then you know I just kind of decided at that

Point like it’s wasn’t you know it wasn’t I wasn’t good to go you know so yeah and I didn’t want to be away from the kid the kids and did um did working with the horses and stuff did that give you like a little bit of peace and and

Kind of just like Center you a little bit especially after like a neck injury like was it [ __ ] with your head maybe it was definitely [ __ ] with my head it’s it was was tough time that way but um no it was more gave me like I mean I

Don’t know if you ever owned a race horse but like no it’s I’m I’m thinking about it I just bought L and Jackson I talk about it all the time would you recommend it well you have to have deep [ __ ] Pockets I mean I didn’t I didn’t

Snap him tape the tape you you this is invested in yeah yeah you need to be in a you need to be in like a Syndicate or something with a group where you have because it’s just it it’s expensive and you know one or two horses could just get hurt and be

Like huge money pits um but it it’s so exciting and fun it just really is watching like we had a couple steak horse winners that like you know I mean oh being at the race after taking the picture oh just no just watching your horse come around the you know the

Backstretch and stuff like that there’s there’s so it back to what we talked about earlier kind of gives you a little bit of that the juices if the juice is flowing again and just to go back to the production stuff were were you ever like a movie buff or did you

Ever do any type of writing or was that just once again just so Random where it just that’s how you felt no I I would always huge into movies and TV series oh W oh yeah you and could do a 30 minute no oh I watch everything and I’ve been

Everything and I analyze that’s how I played too you just just you analyze everything you do everything and um you’re kind of like oh why did they do this well they should have done that you know playing you know backseat driver would you be the guy would you always be

Going to the movie theater when you were a player uh I went quite a bit yeah I mean I would say yeah I mean a lot of Blockbuster back in the day I could tell that yeah just hoping that the new releases were back where you check out

Cuz they were all sold out of well and and I would like take like an hour in a trying to figure out what movie I wanted to pick and stuff I a nightmare what well that’s that’s a good custom like what do you lean toward that just all

Anything whatever strikes your fancy or uh yeah I’m pretty like Thriller action thrillers you know but I into some good drama stuff too and like my good comedies like everybody else you find it the older you get the more like kind of I guess like you’re less in tune with

Maybe action you want to kind of maybe think a little more the older you get as far as a movie or is that just me is what sir you like a movie that makes you think a little bit more as opposed to like an action movie as

100% well especially cuz I’m in the business now and you want you want stuff that’s got some depth to it exactly and there’s a lack of that serious my god there really well it’s because it’s hard to sell yeah exact I could go make the best drum ever and lose money because

The 17 comical unless it wins every award right right it’s got to win Awards it’s got to do stuff so it could be really good doesn’t win anything but yet you can make an action movie with Bruce Wills in it for 20 minutes and you know

It’s you could sell it for five million bucks it’s like you know there’s there’s a formula there that it’s much easier to do Thrillers and action movies so you hate all this Marvel [ __ ] then too well at least the Marvel has you know some story lines and some of them are

Good and okay you know I mean it you know it it’s more of the you know those cheap action movies like The Bruce Willis ones at the end and you know some of the ones Nichols Gage did and a bunch of oh like Gone in 60 Seconds I watched it the other night

Like cheesy it was like you it is but those are higher end than the ones I’m talking about like the ones I’m talking about are you know they’ve been making a living off of doing those kind of movies so I actually watched uh I meant to tell

You this on Netflix there’s a great Sylvester Stallone documentary on there yeah you see I haven’t seen no I just watched it on the play toly I there’s so much about his life I didn’t know like the action movie aspect that’s funny cuz they just did one on Arnold Scher that

Was a he was in this he was in this one cuz the one on Arnold was incredible it went through his his bodybuilding to get him to America then it went through his movie career and then it went through his politician career which did it go

Through his Nanny yeah yeah and I give him credit for that he did like he did own his mistakes in that know he fessed up that’s that’s for the flight home then there we go there you go you know if you download it you can watch it now anyways enough of the

Movie Enough of the movie talk we got talk about your career obviously you played with the London night so we can insert our London nights bribery joke here at this point W doing that yet back then right um you talking about hunt you know no we we always J he from him they

Were actually pissed at first cuz people were thinking we were serious but because they always land all the top prospects and like even guys who were saying they’re going to go to college and they drafted drafted fifth round somehow they end up getting traded to the London night end up going imagine

Shocker he shocker don’t mess with huny man that’s what I’m saying but but he can also these guys the nhlers and he’s got that pedigree so assuming that they trust him so that’s kind of the ongoing joke but when you were drafted there were you fired up and had did you even

Know anything about the OR at that time oh oh my God it was like just everything if I look back just everything happened so fast it was you know it was crazy um I grew up in North York a shitty neighborhood you know and it wasn’t like

I was that experien with knowing how everything works and all that stuff and then um as a 15-year-old turning 16 I got drafted a band I wasn’t even playing Junior B or anything um so it was like you know you’re going from playing with you know 14-year-old boys 15-year-old

Kids to 20-year-old guys who were oh you went the next year right after draft yeah yeah wow did they change that rule were you that good that you were no they they they back in the back then it was uh each team could have two under ages y

Okay um so and you had to draft them in the first three rounds if you wanted them um that’s kind of how it was um but it it was weird getting it was uncommon getting drafted out of banam actually Pekka got drafted the year before me in

Toronto out of banam but we were like the only two forever that got drafted out of Bantam usually you know like I could have played for the G Junior B team that year I I went I made the team I didn’t go so that’s a more standard

Route and all all the guys who got drafted with me were playing Junior B oh okay so it’s still the same age couple midgets yeah yeah same age couple midgets um but mostly mostly played Junior B so out of bam I’m just saying the competition was obviously shittier

Than they were having yeah um cuz you know you’re playing against you know fth 14 15 year olds instead of did you have an agent then uh had you already started no no no not not back then just a call from London hey be at camp in September

There was a scout there that that kind of was grooming me to want to come there and you know hoping you got me cuz it was kind of in that range where um I think I went 10th or something I think it was 10th but where you know

One team could take me at seventh Windor at 7eventh they were talking so it was kind of he was grooming me to kind of go there and he was kind of walking me through the from Christmas to the draft kind of time frame yeah um but you know

Once you you know once you get there it’s just like London’s a great City so I was wondering was it a big-time organization then as it is yeah they were just at that old barn they probably weren’t drawing as well and it wasn’t as big of a spectacle we now it feels like

It’s ran like an NHL team right you go there it’s like a what 11,000 seats they sell out most nights the beer sales I want to say the organization it’s probably worth 30 million bucks if they sold it I I don’t even know but uh it’s

Funny huny bought it for like uh I think it was two and a quarter pretty good I know that because I was in the other but he’s put his blood sweat no we were true story you’re like we offered you 2.1 for Christ no he

Did it’s long story we don’t get into it but um but anyway the point is it was like 225 or 25 at the most um but and they were already planning the move was coming in a year and you know so was crazy they sold for that even back then

They should have got way more for that oh I was going to ask was it an overpay but it was actually kind of a steal oh yeah I think he had pictures I don’t know he must have yeah yeah he had the private investigator on him just like

Some of these trades I see Stevie y make I’m like how does he win every [ __ ] trade now I saw that your numbers your first and you said hey it all happened so fast so that first year is probably just a lot of trying to get adjusted to

The speed and and and learn the game at that level yeah we we were a really good team too it was us and the Sue and um you know it’s weird too cuz the was really tough back then and you’re coming out of bandam there’s no fighting

There’s no really and you’re a big guy it it was it was physical and you know even a minor hockey but it’s physical for 15y olds not for grown men who are I had Chris Simon running around like oh trying to butt end you in the face base

And do stupid crazy stuff and you know this big 64 225 lb you know guy running around the ice with his long hair you know and I’m a 16-year-old Buck 75 you know and just trying to stay out of his way at the time but uh it was kind of

Crazy time it’s a huge adjustment I mean for a young kid um yeah I think I had like 30 points or something in like 60 games well I’m looking here you had you jumped from 29 Points to 118 like I wonder 89 points that might be a record

For one year to the next in that league so like you must have maybe just like become that more accustomed to it or had a big summer going into the second year there was no big Summers back then buddy no training what was your summer give me like a Monday through Friday summer

During Junior hit the bottle man like any rideing the bike run or nothing I did nothing back I until I got drafted once I got drafted I went to Washington the first year and worked out there all summer and that was like the first taste I got of actually you being a

Professional and any kind and not even being a professional but just working out yeah I mean there was no yeah it it was there there was Zero of that stuff so how how the big jump then that’s crazy honestly I I think that some of it

Was I wasn’t as bad as I was the year before I wasn’t getting as much we had a really veteran team we were two best teams with the Sue two toughest teams it was kind of like trying to coach trying to find I don’t know if you know Gary U

Is he was coaching yeah he coached in Columbus I didn’t he yeah and you know he trying to find ice time for a young kid and when you’re in a you know the gust of it and all that I think was tough but also I think really it was

Confidence you know like I even though I didn’t do much year before I came home and I was like you know I kind of told a couple my teammates I was going to get 100 points and I said 50 and 50 so it wasn’t I didn’t get 50 goals but I 76

Apples though I had 42 I think 42 or something yeah 42 yeah I a good memory on that um but I I literally went in and you know they’re basically laughing at you right yeah of course like yeah good good one buddy you know you’re going to

Get um I’m like yeah we’ll see you know all the veterans left so it opened up opportunity so it gave me confidence in Camp I went out and I power play Everything well you have to earn it yep right like it wasn’t like I wasn’t

Giving it to me that’s for sure you know he went out and Camp I played hard and earned it and then it it was it was just kind of like boom it was like something clicked and I changed my game too when I was in minor hockey I was Deacon

Everybody scoring two goals a game um my first year in junior I’m trying to figure out how to be effective at that particular level um which for me was learning how to make other people better yeah that’s I mean that’s what I was going to ask next like it’s just you

Were known for your passing like when did that that that year that’s when it clicked I I think a lot of the guys who kind of were smart players who cerebral read the game I think they adjust you know I mean I I mean it’s it’s like you

Know we were talking about McDavid today even it’s like he’s going to get better down low his his game’s going to get he’s the best player of all time on the rush like not even in my mind nobody’s even close but he hasn’t dominated as much down low yet but he will he’ll

Figure it out because he’s getting tools he’s learning the game he’s going to figure out that that’s going to buy him a little you know yeah cuz there’s I mean if you look at Sid there was certain things when he came in he wasn’t good at that he naturally was like

Whereas like you’re saying like down low Sid was always pretty low Center gravity good at battling in the corners for pucks where where that’s what you think that McDavid needs to add to his bag well you know I mean I mean I just think he’s going to naturally get better at it

I mean you know I played with 32 we’re close similar style players um I was 20 2 21 when 22 when he was 18 kind of you know followed each other and they used to be all over him all the time like like dude hang on to the puck there go

In the corner get get behind the NM you’re big and strong and again 18-year-old kid trying to figure it out right and I watched you know we used to get shitty highlight tapes from the Bruins at the end of the year that you see all your points they show you all

Your points and um I was saying from from my first year where I was ninth in the league to my fourth year where I was third or fourth I think it was fourth um my game was totally different like you know similar but totally in year one I

Was more off the rush more trying to get to the net more and whatever by the end I was more behind the net using the net more being smarter using my body better so you you and you know you learn that when you figure it out you do you’re

They’re smart great hockey players you’re going to figure it out right it’s uh were you a kid that was obsessed with it oh yeah for and so like you’re on the ice or you’re home shooting pox not as much on the ice uh it wasn’t a whole lot

Of ice back then for like mean we were only on two three times a week at the most not like now the kids are on you mean in junior in OHL no oh okay okay sorry I as a kid no we were obessed hockey parents on they got like the

Skating coach the stick handling coach it wasn’t you didn’t have access like that no no and we didn’t have the funds either or anything right a lot a lot of street hockey I’ll tell you that that’s like like all the older guys I mean we had nobody skated then Mickey Vota came on

And talked about tree hockey we just had Sean but do you not think the guys are a little like back in that they were a little headier a little better kind of Mer’s so we got a buddy who’s part of part of our our show and he always talks

Like yes the skill and the speed and the one-on-one moves are different now but he’s convinced and I’ve kind of agree with him that the hockey maybe we just sound like older guys the hockey IQ was was a maybe a a little better a little better then well because you’re

Experiencing all those things right I mean just those hours of Road hockey you you’re learning oh I got that little extra time to flip it up I don’t have that extra time you know I watch the kids now they all can skate around pylons and shoot good and but can they

See the ice right and do they know they have that extra split SEC and we’re even doing Road HCK you’re experiencing those a kazillion times a week right you’re just like out there all the time and you oh [ __ ] I could do this and oh I got

Little extra time just I think the Poise and uh you know the patience and all that kind of stuff I think was was a little different um but to your point the the skill and speed R off the jerks it’s crazy your third season in London

You did you did get the 50 and 50 55 goals 87 assists but what I noticed that year you actually played for Washington London and uh Portland the HL F two seasons in a row how did that like that that’s not something that could go down

Today I don’t believe I you know it was it so the first year I played a couple games in Washington when I was 18 at the end of my junior season so I you know I got I signed my deal I played a couple games there the plan was for me to go

Back there next year and the lock out happened um so I missed half the year and then I did go there for the back half the loo but I in another lineup kind of thing and what have you and then when the season was done um well

Actually sorry the first year when I was 18 and played those two games they asked we made second round in the playoffs to the Rangers when they won the cup and then they asked me if I wanted to go to Portland for the finals cuz they were in

The CER cup and I was kind of like they’re my buddies and stuff on the team they train with I’m like [ __ ] I don’t want to go in there like you know in the finals oh man and then there was only and if we lose I look like the it wasn’t

Even to lose just stealing their and and you’re you’re sitting there thinking do they even want me there yeah you haven’t put any emotional investment into it they’ve been doing this all year well and you’re like do they want me there right because it’s like you know you

Don’t want to go and disrupt things um and I had a long goddamn year we did the summer in Washington and then um Junior and then the world juniors was a long time then I finished the year in the NHL and then you know it was and then and

Then you just keep going but uh you know it was it was funny so I had to talk with David P and he asked me and I’m like okay just two things promised me two things one I’m going to get ice like I’m going to get to play I’m not going

Up there to not play again you know like that would just be disruptful for no reason and two that you know do they want me there like what’s what’s what going on and he’s like I talked to try today Barry trotz was coaching and he’s

Like he really wants you D and and I went and you know he I played and got some I helped them out and we won and it all worked out but you know it was it was a weird situation anyway the the the whole next year when I was a 19-year-old

That’s when the lockout came and I went back to Junior so I could play in the world juniors cuz you had to play junior hockey at that point and then halfway through I finished Washington um but again not getting as much ice and then uh when my junior season was done I went

Back to uh Portland to finish out because I wasn’t getting much ice um when your Junior season was done you were allowed to go to uh the miners but you couldn’t play in the miners as a 19-year-old correct yeah um if your junior team was playing because they

Don’t want to they didn’t want all the kids leaving Junior as that’s Jeff Carter and Mike Richards they went to the and they won I think Ryan getov and Cory Perry did the same in Portland as well and and I mean you already touched on it but uh World Juniors you had to

Play backtack years so how like how shocked were you that first year when you got the call and was it one of those ones where you had to go to camp and then if you made you’d get the knock on the door if you made it and if not you s

Sort of yeah yeah I mean um it was cool because I was a huge World Junior guy growing up in Canada and um watched every year watched every one so for me it was really special and um it’s amazing you get all these kids from all over who are amazing hockey players any

CH draft choice first rounders and they all really do go there and sacrifice and do things right guys in the fourth line yeah it it was it was it was special I mean probably one of the you know more rewarding moments of of my life doing those two thing you know winning two

Gold medals back to back it was it was fun we got to shout out 14 World Junior games 24 points yeah that’s like and you were player of the tournament in your second one correct a leading scorer I don’t know leading score yeah well that’s pretty good either way okay I

Don’t know if they gave you like a tat watch or something it was it was something I don’t remember exactly what it was but something like that no we we we we had you know the first year we’re actually ranked fifth or sixth so we weren’t expected to win um so two

Totally different tournaments one we’re going to Sweden as a fifth ranked team and we had no NHL like high NHL guys or anything like that um we end up you know winning that one in the last game and it’s crazy back then it was just Round

Rob I was going to ask if you were still part of that it was seven games and best record so so so we were 0 and one right going into the game seven and the game we tied we’re up three nothing and the third to Russia um and kind of blew it

Um so now we’re going to game seven we’re playing Sweden they were 60 and 0 so we could have went in there and been 60 and two without losing and and got silver medal if we lost that last game so you’re kind of going in there you’re

Kind of down one nothing kind of crazy it worked out that that was the gold medal game though I know it it was it was really cool because because you know we didn’t really have one the next year that that was a lockout year and our team was just gross and you played

Sweden in Sweden is that what you just said no no sorry we’re in Czech Republic yes yes yes I did say go to Sweden it’s my bad no we were playing Sweden in the last game um but yeah it was it was really cool because we still kind of had

That game yeah that where you know intensity was there and all that but yeah it sucked not having a semi or finals like you know nobody likes that they must have changed that pretty soon it wasn’t it wasn’t too long after yeah so you got a few cups of coffee at

Washington will you get Nancy though you know being a first round pick they brought you up three different times like I mean who was the head you on the dep shot they didn’t really bring me up through I was kind of there and if I

Went down it was to get some work in okay so you know it back then they were kind of into their older guys and they were really defensive oriented team it wasn’t just myself I mean we had myself Anson uh Andrew Bernett uh Sergey gonar he wasn’t

Really playing much like there was a whole bunch of us that were really good actually they did a really good job there back then uh do uh Drafting and developing players um so it was just more circumstance I think and and but no it was frustrating the

[ __ ] out of me you kidding me I’m watching guys who I know I’m better than getting 20 something goals in the NHL I’m not even [ __ ] playing um you know they I was playing a line with Craig brew and Kevin Kaminsky for for most of never getting a chance to show your off

It it you know and you know how it is at least you weren’t going to get beat up well that’s not true because then then get me in trouble you know it’s like you know you know what I’m saying it’s like you know so um but you it wasn’t uh it

Wasn’t I I didn’t really get a great shot I’m going to say um you know not you probably wished at that point after going to um play for Troy that he was the coach in Washington could you did you enjoy your time with him could you

Have seen the success he’d have in the NHL sure I mean you know don’t forget too we’re 18yar old kids showing up there and you’re trying to figure [ __ ] out um and that’s not easy either um you know I talk about all the time it’s like

I moved out there by myself I had no bank accounts no clue what’s going on Clean cleaning the house and laundry and paying your rent and how overwhelming it oh my God it’s it’s and then you got to worry about the whole city being you know pissed off of you when you’re 18

Years old you’re coach hating you your new teammates who are 30-year old men you know it isar there was no back then there was no families that you were staying with or anything I mean I was I was on my own you know and and I didn’t

Have you know the the like I said the way I grew up it wasn’t like you know we had a whole lot of resources and stuff like that so I was really out in the cold you know it was like I had like four checks dra for like 50 Grand at one

Point each yeah because I didn’t know what the what to do with them I’m like you like Manny Ramirez oh it it was it was it’s it’s crazy though right so my point to it all is is that you know I think you need time to adjust to and and

You know you have I had a chip on my shoulder and it was funny I I looked back and I had a couple tiffs with poil and um but not you know just in a sense of I want to play right like that was my

Whole thing I just want to play I just want to play trade me then you know like kind of thing and you know in his head it’s like just be patient you know he’s a gy and he’s right but in my head I’m like scre you man I need to prove myself

I you know but that’s what made me a good players that having that what made you Tech yeah you know you get pissed off I played better you know it it was one of those things that you know you you kind of like have to the approach

It’s you against the world kind of thing in the sense of okay nobody’s I never had nothing handed to me like I was always even when I got drafted I got drafted that 120 points six six3 I was the highest scoring guy in the draft I

Went 17th right like so you were at the draft like what the [ __ ] going on no I kind of knew just because of rankings and all that well I figured what was holding you back I figured I figured 10 to to 19 was my what was holding you

Back the boots were they worried about your boots yeah yeah yeah but I feel like then a big powerful no but it was still about oh they don’t skate get up um and it’s funny though because it’s like of all the heat I over took with

Skating it was like um when I do the testing in uh La by the time I was older in my career I finished like second out of 70 guys and go line to Blue Line so the conditioning wasn’t the issue was no no I I wasn’t a good skater but I I

Wasn’t slow and and no one beat me to pucks and nobody caught me from behind you know so it wasn’t like it was effective enough is my point [ __ ] great it was you know and you know Bruno was way slower than me sorry sorry

B but it’s it is true um but he had a career of and he was super effective and just super skilled super smart great hands all this stuff Big Boy use his body it you know it I have these discussions all the time it’s like you know these you get a little small

Skilled guy if he looks really good but he can he play right and then you get some of these give me a big guy who can play I take him all day long you teach him how to skate a bit you know get to get by but yeah you guys like Char and

Stuff look how clumsy he was when he started yeah um you know he was awesome he’s amazing but it take I think it takes him a little longer some of the bigger guys right well business thing it sometimes it takes guys longer that that size to get into

The season too almost where like he talks about right you were saying that yeah just more about like the feel of the game like I don’t know if you were a notoriously slow starter I just feel like sometimes guys who play those power positions and like to muck it up they’re

Like well we got 82 games here if we’re counting in playoffs too I don’t really need to get going till about the 15 20 game Mark that’s my that’s my philosophy I 100% think guys do that that was not me because I was always just worried about somebody thinking that I wasn’t as

Good as I can be and um you know I I always look at it like what drove me was kind of like didn’t matter who I was playing against I go into a game being like I’m going to be better than him even though deep down I knew they were

Probably better than me or you had some serious self motivation like your whole life whole career right that was kind of what got me ticking and whatever was that selftaught or was that some maybe like some advice you got get yourself Who You Are as a person I guess with the

Way you tick yeah um you know you you it’s not good enough someone was better than you today you know that was and I took it home I’m not going to lie like you know I go home and be grumpy until the next game if I didn’t have a good

Game and where other guys wouldn’t some guys can [ __ ] I envy I envy the guys who could leave it at their but they can I I but they’re usually not they’re usually not the the gamer guys who you want okay that’s your that’s your theory well like

I no because we talking about I mean teu brought a home but he seemed like a very he never played bad there you go there you go there’s the answer to my question no but you’re right Biz if teu was yeah if he didn’t score he like I didn’t

Score tonight I’ll get two yeah you’re right yeah some guys some guys were just good at doing it where I feel like it would uh it wouldn’t cause as much stress where they could maybe even like not go into ruts as as long as certain guys who are on themselves I think guys

Are are on themselves don’t go in as long a ruts to be honest I if they’re doing it in a positive way um you know it it’s it’s I mean I’m gonna use some of the best players ever Michael Jordan LeBron James all these guys are you

Kidding me if he goes you you don’t think when he went home if someone was better than him and didn’t eat at him till the next year Sid Tom Brady there’s stories about yeah but that’s why but again I’m not saying he’s going home and he can’t

Sleep for two days and he’s I’m not that’s what I’m talking about I’m saying little I’m saying not even anger it’s just eating you a bit yeah it’s like you’re like [ __ ] like they say that MJ and and even LeBron like like some nights to motivate them they’ll listen

To a guy in the crowd chirping them and saying I’m gonna put up 40 to [ __ ] tell that [ __ ] to [ __ ] you after the game like stuff like that yeah I mean it it’s Alan Iverson you know for all his flaws and stuff he was a gamer

He got out there and he played and did his thing and I’m sure again chip on the shoulder right like it it’s you know you you want the guy that you know if he can have a good game he’s going to come back and be better he’s not going to go in

That 10 game slump he’s not going to do those things um and I I’m a huge believer and Stanley Cup teams are built that way where it’s like you know you put together enough winners and you’re going to win when I say winners I mean

You know guys who just it’s such a hard game as you know especially you get in the playoffs and all that the guys will do anything and yeah and you need the guys that’s my point is it’s not the most talented guys it’s the guys who are

Kind of going to do anything and if you have seven eight guys who won’t do that you’re not going to win right was there uh was there anything that you would do where if like you were too wound up you needed to do to get your head away was

There one thing that you would do as a hobby that that would get you like out out of your hockey mind frame I mean I was the booze after the game okay all right sixpack is the answer okay right you know I think that was most of

The boys stress that’s the era you grew up in yeah well that was a stress release right it was like you like in the stall waiting for you after the game and we were we were well back of the bus on the road okay Billy gar and I used to

Pay the visiting team attendee to make sure there were two cold cases at the back after every game and I I remember seeing that like for the first time when I when I got into the NHL I was like oh my God and I was like where did they

Where did this come from they were like oh yeah you tell the you tell the visiting training room guy I was like this is this is the National Hockey League and then they had they had they had in my first two years they had booze

On the planes right yep um and you could just get vaded well some teams still have it but some teams have nerded out where they won’t allow alcohol or even sugar on the plane so you know um the whole Steve Chason yeah incident um not that that was the cause

But because we played them actually though I don’t even know what this story is he played for Carolina and they um they flew home or were they yeah they flew home from Boston right they played in Boston then flew home and he on the after the plane ride he got his car

Driving home I think they went to someone’s house first oh really and then when he was driving home from the house passed away he was I don’t even think he was hammered I think he fell asleep or something I you know who who knows what happened but it did change after that

Yeah it was it was a shitty time and sad you know sad thing to happen but um it well liability right I mean yeah you know it it kind of yeah I I I’d be nervous serving my guy’s booze on the plane and then they drive home and yeah

Oh it’s a good call you know I mean you’re going to do it you know some of the guys are going to do it anyway or sneak it but yeah they get the wine and their travel bag what do you got R yeah well of course the big trade whether you

Were threaten them poil or not the trade did come uh it’s a huge blockb I mean I would love to see one of these today it was you Anson cat and Jim Carrey who I believe had already won a vzna trophy for Adam HZ Bill Ranford and Rick toet

How’s that for a slobin of a trade did they catch you off God were you excited what was your reaction and it was great for you I think my original reaction was you know what the [ __ ] Boston doing you know um OOTS well in all

Fairness if you look back at the time I was fourth liner in Washington AC was up and down from the miners and Jim Carrey was probably the centerpiece of the deal and only played another year or something that’s as a 21-year-old vno winner that’s [ __ ] yeah his career ended

Pretty quick right so yeah you know and ramford was freaking awesome goalie he still really good at that time um they had only but you know he was still a top goalie um and obviously Ooty was oty he was you know putting up 70 in his sleep pretty

Good pass you know that kind of stuff um and then taket was kind of his deal was up so you know yeah I get that piece a bit but you know it was kind of like and it was funny the trade actually worked out for Boston fairly quickly too and

The sense that it was up you know and again nobody would ever seen it coming but um when you got I think Anon had what 20 something goals that year and I had 80 something points yeah in year one yeah that we were there and Ace Ace was

Brutal at the yeah because Bruins fans are probably like Jason Allison’s on the fourth line and then you come in no they’re probably like what the [ __ ] they trading oie for this guy for well because he he shot himself out of town he knew if I you know he complained

About well rightfully complained about that Bruin’s not spending money well you know how it was back then my absolutely absolutely he’s open about it he’s I could I couldn’t even get thority to come to the 100th Centennial anniversary because he still bitter the stuff that

Went down back in the day but um you know it was tough I’m not going to lie it was tough we had a ridiculously good team back then young as hell yeah had two cators sord and I that were I was 25 I think he was like 21 and we’re like

You know top scorers in the league big boys 100 pin you know like yeah doing all that Billy Garr was the oldest at like 28 or something man scoring 40 samsonoff was Joe’s age 21 we had Rolston who was 26 and putting up 30 goals at the time yeah we were just we

Were loaded man it was like and then the second every time someone’s deal came up they wouldn’t pay him you’re gone no [ __ ] that’s so stupid because they were making so much money and they like their original six that it’s not like the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pirates where I

Get that it’s not a big Market you’re the [ __ ] Boston Bruins why wouldn’t they pay to keep guys around it’s not what they did but yeah they send him was paid to like make sure that his owner made money and he didn’t care about he basically keeping contracts down like

They their priority was to make the owner money and it didn’t M it wasn’t about building the best team that period of at that period do you how much do you think that that cost him from winning a Stanley Cup I you know you nobody can

Say but we we would have had you know with the group we had we definitely had the core to absolutely you look at Kors now was getting paid like if they paid their core then you guys would have had a run and and they weren’t even making

It close guys it was like oh yeah so you’re given your idea of your salary and they’re coming back not even no like I’m I’m I’m I’m getting offered s to n from everybody and they’re like under five holy [ __ ] so it’s like what do you

You know I’m like just I loved it there are you kidding me I was I was with my boys we had a great group of guys you know I had success I was the captain of the team there was 25 years old till 26 just turned 26 I don’t want go anywhere

You kid Boston I love Boston it’s an amazing city um so it was like it was you know really tough thing in my life looking back at uh but you know what choice do you have it’s it’s kind of like they they really weren’t putting a competitive offer out it wasn’t I was

They knew they’re like crazy if you don’t what were the what were the guys on the team saying that knowing that you weren’t going to be taking it and they were going to be losing their Captain wow you know the happened to Billy right after and then Joe right

After that like one year like we were all couple years apart like boom boom boom um you know the give give them credit eventually they kind of came around and started changing things but um you know was the whole Stanley Cups come and go hot dogs and beer here

Forever you know yeah well you were there for I mean Joe’s first year like like he didn’t even play he was yeah well B yeah Bernay but put the leash on more or less like he was protecting yeah he he was T but like he was just he was

Like a 12-year-old back then he was we used to call him SPI just cuz had the long hair he had the he’s still a 12y old you know he’s my boy I love him but you still talk with him oh yeah all the time oh when you got to Boston though

You finally got that chance right you you you’re playing minutes you’re you’re scoring right away so then did you realized like all right I got this or even before did you know I can do this just give me the chance well that was in

My head I was right or not well you were everyone’s story but but you know back to the whole being pissed off when you go home you don’t it’s the same thing is your Seasons I think it’s important that you know I I believe again a guy like

Sid or whoever Michael Jordan go home he’ll put new tools in the toolbox in the offseason Kobe you know you got to go home needing to be better the next year right and everybody’s not kind of built that way and that was my one of my

Benefits is you know it was kind of like okay I I remember this specifically I’m 2122 I finish ninth in the league and scoring I go home and you know I want to be better next year but I didn’t put in the work I didn’t do the [ __ ] um ended

Up being 14th or something like that you know just miserable pissed off you know 23y old kid that was like you know okay that’s the last time that’s going to happen this is on me kind of yeah I got a speed skater friend an Olympic speed

Skater friend to come and live with me for a month and you want to talk about training compared to what I oh my God those guys are freaking animals and beasts helped me with my stride made me a little faster more powerful but also just stronger like we were squatting a ton like

Preston three days like and I came back and I actually got hurt and then had Tenon transplant and all this [ __ ] in my farm went back till the next year did it again and ended up that’s when I ended up finishing in the top uh four in the

League but it was I needed that you know to get to that next level and you know I didn’t go home being like way to go buddy you finish ninth and you know you’re going to be the best ever yeah yeah it it doesn’t work that way so but

How about that the the 95 Point Season like it was your free agency year correct so well I wasn’t an unrestricted free agent wow it took that long to become oh [ __ ] yeah man back then it was it was like 31 years old yeah that wasn’t that’s what the players fought

For in that lock out like 31 years old when they took the cap they made the UFA y earlier yep really yeah now now it’s s years by the time you play your first right play your which is insane I would have been 25 right yeah and 31 was

The I mean well Boston wouldn’t have paid you anyway yeah well I know that but but at least I would have been able to kind of not miss the start of the seasoning go which I had to do um and pick where you go and you know you’re

Going to make way more money too you’re going to go to a spot where they want you the most and they usually pay you the most the ones who want you the most so as opposed to the ones who can actually pull off the trade right so um

It’s not easy trading for a top player you know it’s it’s you know they’re especially back then it wasn’t like now where you know everyone got qualifying offers you never gave away your top like it was it was different right so um it wasn’t easy trading for you know top

Young Talent back then so well before we send you at La I got a couple more for Boston here like you you took over the captaincy at the ray book and you know it was obviously a big deal on Boston did that give you additional pressure I

Know it’s only a letter and sometimes fans maybe make more of it than the players do but did you feel additional pressure having to see you know the original six supplanted bork from from that captaincy I [ __ ] loved it yeah I love it love the answer it was uh you

Know it it fueled me you know that was that was my best year U pointwise um and it just you know again I don’t know I play in Toronto also later and stuff but I never ever felt pressure from outside it was you know any pressure was from me or Co or

My sometimes the coach and you know that kind of stuff but I just I don’t know the outside noise never really bothered me I I saw his motivation like you know it’s like are you kidding me or original sick City the Boston Bruins I got the C

I want the [ __ ] C give me the C I’ll give it to somebody else do you have a a most moment you look back on with the Bruins like that was I would assume that was probably the Pinnacle of your career like what do you what did you enjoy most

About being a bruin uh we had a great group to be honest and that’s always one of the most you know people talk about oh where’s the best place to play or where do you like playing the most and I think you could be in whether you’re in

Columbus or LA or somewhere in between or hockey City like Toronto or Boston if you have a good group and and you’re tight and you’re winning and and everyone one’s pulling for each other I I just think that that’s where you enjoy the most and and we kind of had that and

That was the that was a sad part about that not staying together and and what have you but we also had uh one year our whole line went to the all-star game which was cool uh Billy Garen Sergey and Sam snoff and myself um so that was you

Know gas line the old gas right there you go why they call you the gas line Garen Allison Simpson oh okay all right like I’m an idiot with no I’m like I think you’re still like I don’t get it though what do you mean no I get

The no I get it the first letters of the last name wit these guys give me [ __ ] for my La was the LA PD line uh py dead Marshall okay all right everyone’s Super Creative out there yeah yeah big time Big Time oh [ __ ] I know one other thing in Boston

How would their relationship with the media obviously I know they didn’t motivate you but was it contentious I knew you were probably more of a quiet guy there but like Kevin Paul De Pond I I mean I think he’s a peck ahead myself but did you get along with the media for

The most part there or was it a little standoffish sure I mean to be honest most of the guys fought with the team more than the media I mean okay you know it kind of I’m not going to lie it’s not it kind of pisses you off when you put

Everything out and you have a huge year and then they’re picking you part in the media the team because you know the contracts up or something like that ownership which would never [ __ ] happen now by the way but it it it’s just it was it was yeah you know it

Causes issues I don’t care what anyone says you know everyone has feelings God damn it it’s like well they’re just trying to make it look like when they don’t when you’re not there that there’s a reason justifying 100% And we know that we’re not dumb you know it’s like

You you kind of it’s funny though you think the fans know that and they don’t always they don’t they’re like Mike felger said this it’s like you know it’s like it’s like you know Allison left because he wanted more dough you know it’s like it’s my fault you know it’s like okay whatever

You know it’s like but you think you’d figure the fans would know just because you know it’s pretty obvious what they were doing you know were you drinking the Kool-Aid r or were you aware back then I was pissed wearing paper bags over his of the game I was I did do to

Do that but it was a million yeah that was the thing oh he was looking for too much money I that was the spin the team was putting out but I mean is that what were you asking for ablon back then because no guys were getting it no that

That’s that’s that’s the realm I was in I end up getting it wasn’t that I was asking for it I I probably would have taken you got 8 million bucks year no no seven I end up getting seven [ __ ] bad good for you it probably would have been

But my point is this if it was if they offer six or six and a quarter thinking about it right 100% get to six at least but that’s still a big difference yeah you know and it depends on how many years too by the way you’re thinking I

Mean nobody really knows this but there was a when I got traded to La actually originally was supposed to be traded to the Islanders and that was the Ashen deal so I was getting thrown that money at me at that point in time which was

You know I he signed what 10 years 90 million um so nine a year for 10 years the deal they asked me about when at that point in time was uh eight years for 70 but nevertheless those are the number like that was one team I don’t

Know who you don’t know who’s trading for for you right like you don’t know who’s going to and La was actually the lower you making Marvel movies now if you would that your production compan you imagine how much nice nicer life would be right when no he no headaches

Yeah no he special effects four years 20 million you’re like uh what no no no not even four two years I was say yeah what I [ __ ] sendon it was it was it was two years like 7.8 or oh just lowball instead of recognizing what they had W

And it pissed me off too they signed Marty Le Point for 5 million yeah well that that was because uh what’s his name Jacobs was pissed off at um oh illage they they had some owner beef so [ __ ] the point was he went and stole his guy

He thought he was stealing he gave M the point four years 20 mil like and the Bruins gave nobody a [ __ ] scent you know might was a good player but he wasn’t you like [ __ ] I do you think that makes me feel like exactly I’m 25

And I put up exactly numbers been they were going to give it to this guy so I think he got six goals next year too or something like fight up over here shaking it yeah it was it it was kind of sh [ __ ] man I’m still I’m

Still pissed off sh you know if we just had the reunion like I was saying and you know I Bor samsn Oxon we were all hanging out and talking about it and it’s just kind of like you know it’s it’s we loved our team you know it was

It was shitty that had to go down that way that’s all yeah cuz things would so dark iing when they bought him that you know Stevie Casper after the bench in NE then next year the number one pick yeah you came the year later you got the tail

In this Stevie Casper for the last 20 games how how was your experience with him because I know he never coached again after that it was tough 20 games I just got to new te yeah I could really I’m not there was nothing super positive

Or negative that I one way or the other remember being like oh he was a great coach or bad coach or this or that so uh you you then went off to La you actually I saw you play with Zigman pal was he not the one who just retired midseason

When he was with the Penguins yes yes one of the best players in the league nobody knows about he was the year you retired he was unbelievable no but he he the thing with Zig is he could show up and play at like 20% in practice and

Still make everybody look silly he he he come he come into camp with you know he’s was is he 5’9 I he’s not very tall but fck 60 pop belly no arms like didn’t SK didn’t skate or work out all summer and he’d still go out there and you know

Be the best player on the ice he he was he was a special a special talent that uh uh you know he he got 40 and 80 in his sleep you know 40 goals 8 80 points almost every year in his sleep and that’s without you know training not

Just training I don’t think he really gave a [ __ ] he didn’t I played with him he didn’t give some guys are better when they don’t give they had that no give a [ __ ] meter competitive in his own way they you have to be to be that good the

Game started and he’s he’s getting loose pucks and stuff but just like before the game and practice he’s just right just and you know you get in the playoffs and it’s like does he want to go play for Sakia at the world you know how it works

Or does he want to grind out stop coming oh we don’t get PID in play paycheck starts coming you want to get the [ __ ] kicked out of you with broken bones and this and that for the next eight weeks you know it it’s tough decision I mean

Listen we grew up different you have to remember you know you’re growing up you’re growing up in Canada and it’s like that’s all you ever dream about is winning a Stanley Cup game seven this and that blah blah blah um back then especially those guys weren’t watching

NHL games they wer they were thinking about winning the World Championship [ __ ] right they were so you you bring them over here you put them in this little tiny rink where everyone’s beating the [ __ ] out of each other and fighting and doing stuff and you think when they’re not getting paid that they

Want to stick around for another eight weeks true I’m I’m not even blaming it’s not it’s just it’s so much easier for a Canadian kid to be tough in the playoffs and play through stuff than it would be a European player at that point I think it’s different now time now they’re

Seeing everything yeah and they’re experiencing and stuff like that but it’s like and not to mention the game was like super tough back then and and they were playing in a league with no hitting and [ __ ] and then you bring them over here and he got like got guys’s

Trying to kill them yeah playing sword fights over there just like swinging and [ __ ] seriously it’s like it’s like what you know they’re they’re like what the [ __ ] am I doing here you know they’re playing in Boston Garden in a little tiny rink with Cam

Trying to kill them and okay so you you seem to watch still a little bit because you mentioned McDavid and watching his game do you feel like the lead would be more beneficial by maybe taking some of the games away like do you think 82 I think I always have thought that I’ve

Always said that it’s czy wat down the product it’s crazy it’s crazy what you expect the guys to do for the course of that I mean and it was worse before there was no load management or rest St it didn’t matter if you played 30 minutes a game you have a team masseuse

No well we did at home games not in Boston yeah well and the travel wasn’t as easy well and the you know nutrition all that kind of stuff wasn’t great but just just to expect guys to play three games in four nights in three different cities with what you go through your

Bodywise and stuff um it’s hard I I I mean to me a 60s Something game schedule maybe high 60s I’m even low 70s possibly um I yeah I 100% agree with you I think it’s it’s a little much to ask any other strong opinions about the game and the

State of the NHL no I I mean you know we have to give them credit they’ve grown it they’ve done everything you know it’s bigger now than it was it’s a faster product I do have one it’s nothing they did that anybody did it just Evolution

The game I do miss some of the grittiness of the game um you know the post whistle activities and some of the I think they can get that back if they shorten the schedule because guys are going to be more invested into each game because there’s call they’re calling

Everything now it’s it’s it’s a little hard softer than [ __ ] the kids on the and I’ve had convers you know I mean um you know Rob Blake donon Jims they were friends of mine and stuff like that even about it it’s hard I mean they’re not they’re not playing through what we

Would have played through when we were younger so it’s like you know it’s it’s it’s tough but I still I’ll argue with anyone all day long that um the tougher teams are still the teams with the advantage and winning I mean and you look at two teams in the

Finals this year yep they were tough they they were tough they played tough I don’t care what anyone says for this day of age that was tough hockey that was they were physical both sides um you know and you know when St Louis won they played physical breu had them go even

Wash yes when they were yeah when they had oric they had Tom Wilson they had guys who could play that game and I think other than Pittsburgh maybe when they won their couple but Pittsburgh was gritty they they were small but they were gritty man I ALS yeah I also value

Toughness like where we talk about like Sid like the amount of punishment he can take down low like to me that’s toughness well just scrapping no it’s giving it back it’s it’s you know Sid gives it back all the time it’s it’s giving it back it’s it’s not everybody’s

Not going to be macho tough and fighting and well [ __ ] he’s even fighting now for crying out loud yeah evene stand up for yourself Bas well you have to once in a while and and you know what it it’s it’s it’s team toughness and and stuff like

That where it’s just like you know you’re not going to get pushed around you’re not going to get intimidated you know I I don’t you’re in a playoff series that many games if they’re running the [ __ ] out of you all the time and crosschecking you all the time and

You’re not giving it back it’s wearing you got to do it’s wearing it’s wearing I don’t care what anyone says so if you’re building a team you have to have guys who are going to play that way and good GMS know that they’re they’re they’re you know they want all the skill

And stuff like that and you know in all fairness tron’s had trouble um in the sense of super super talented and skilled but you know are they gritty enough are they and and they go out and try to get grittier but it has to be some of your core guys too right we

We’ll wait to get to leavf did you want to ask anything more about la uh I I had a question La um because you mentioned the LAPD line like dead Marsh you know I’m American watching him like I know he played I think he played WHL but just a

Machine and I know he had the concussion problems but when you were playing with him he had some serious game huh he was grit he was one of my favorite guys um to play with and I say that like in the sense of he didn’t want the puck which

Is great cuz I want to all [ __ ] time so but it’d be like he was like I’ll say this he was the best four Checker I’ve ever seen he had these little choppy strides and he could zoom in on anybody and he was so like quick and just

Aggressive and get in on it and then he gets open he had a quick shot and he fought anybody he was just you know he was one of my favorite guys to play with he he was he was awesome were you with him when he fought jovo in that fight

That that that really messed him up um was that maybe another year I think it was another year oh okay yeah well and it happens right yeah I mean no and the way he played I mean well the way he fought too he he opened himself up oh yeah he Chuck them old

School yeah there was no no defense I mean for me it’s like tie up if I hit you three times you hit me zero it’s a [ __ ] good day let’s go to the ground here we get it’s a good day I’m I’m bragging everybody I kicked his

Ass um if I take you know if if I land 57 and 46 get landed on me no thanks that was not a win no that that that was not a win I did not enjoy that process I’ll punch his helmet three times and then fall down I’m happy but dadd he

Would just go in just throw in like lefts rights he’s Lefty too so he’ go in throw on um and he let himself exposed yeah I mean he was tough as Nails I wouldn’t want to mess with him either but you know he’s just um but it happens

You play that way right I mean it’s unfortunate he’s such a great hockey player great person too so yeah I actually want to ask how how long did you sign with LA for because you played the two years there huh three years so like the lockout year how did that I

Forgot how that played out was so long ago because you you a free agent after the lockout ended right because um obviously if I was back then if you were if you were playing and put up numbers you’re always going to get your qualifying offer and I would have still

Been stuck there because you have to be 31 to dude that’s when I came into the league and you still W in a UFA no I would have been stuck there still and you had a 24% roll back but I would have had to take the well no if I was healthy

I would have negotiated a new deal with them okay okay right but when you miss a year and a half and the lock out’s looming they’re not giving you [ __ ] deal yeah not at 78 million they can’t they can’t afford to it if I don’t play you know they don’t know anything so

That that wasn’t on them or anything that was that was just uh were you were you excited to go back to Toronto like would you consider that your your hometown team to play at home cuz sometimes have people have good stories about it and some people have underwhelming stories about

It yeah again I think it comes down to your team and all that kind of stuff it wasn’t really about what team I was going to I mean listen when I was young Maple Leafs all the way right like I mean it was and when I was getting drafted as a

18-year-old Maple Leafs they were talking to me and they would have been my first choice and all that stuff but once you go and you start playing elsewhere and stuff it’s like [ __ ] the maple ECE you know no seriously it you know how it is I’m a bruan I’m this I’m

That I love the Bruins I [ __ ] play for the map police I’m with the [ __ ] Boston Bruins so it was a little different um and then when I eventually went back at that point in time in my career it was just more about trying to

Find a good fit and you know to be honest it probably wasn’t the best fit and I took it out of convenience of um you know again having my kids half the time being able to stay home and not be away that was really the reason I it

Wasn’t the right time or fit to be there I mean maybe later it just wasn’t we the team wasn’t in the right spot the you know it just wasn’t who else were you talking to then uh or was it more like you kind of focused Columbus New York I

Nashville like try was there at that point um I was talking some different teams and um but you know it just really like I said in that time in my life that stage hockey wise wasn’t the best fit for me right but yeah you still had a great year statistically and then and

Then and then that was it like that was just I didn’t feel right Buton I was just you know I played I did okay the wrist injury as well too right that no I broke my hand fight at the end of the year and a line brawl against freaking

The Canadians but um but anyway it ended up like it it it you know it it was it was tough because the year was over I wasn’t going back cuz you know wasn’t the right spot for me I was looking elsewhere my neck and head were still

Not right you know I had my kids half the time and if I left and and I’m sitting there going how many years am I leaving then I’m not going for one more year if I go it’s going to be you know three four so it just you know it just I

I’d say mostly the injury but it just ended up not being the right time it I mean I was close to I don’t know what the stats were but I was close to a point of game guy that year it’s not like I couldn’t have I know people must have been like calling

Like hey I kind of disappeared man in Hermit that was then yeah I just kind of was like were you seeing other doctors and stuff like you know D you know it was different yeah it’s it’s they still know [ __ ] by the way but when it comes

To that stuff I mean no it’s it’s a lot it’s it’s not well well ended up being like that where they thought it was a concussion and it wasn’t and I I know what you’re saying yeah but it wasn’t just that I’m just saying they don’t

Know they don’t know how to handle it or what to do to make you better or anything like that right so um you know listen a lot of guys go through a lot tougher time than I did that’s for sure um you know it’s who was the first

Person you called when you made your decision that you were going to be done playing do you remember who you called I don’t even I don’t I don’t even know if I I’m pretty like keep keep your cards close toess yeah I don’t know I literally just there was

Like I didn’t even have a phone does anyone know where Jason Al is like five years later you know um wait a minute he’s not playing anymore well just like no but like just what what happened right um and it it I think that’s what

Made it harder for me to watch too and to be part of stuff is I had years left I mean I I got hurt when I was 27 28 and I had all those years before that but that’s not even your Prime you know you’re kind of well I mean like Wht went

Through it I I I did my last year but like I think it was time anyway but I don’t feel like I had any left like it is crazy though I was done it this was eight it was I was done at 32 and you’re you’re like I thought I was every I

Think I’m going to play till 40 right like you just kind of think that when you’re younger and then all of a sudden you feel old because you’re out of the game right but you’re light you’re so young and life that it that it’s like

Wait I’m I’m only 32 what the hell am I doing now I don’t even know if you realize you’re so young at like no you don’t cuz you feel cuz you’re old in the game old you feel like an old man yeah yeah your body does you feel like an old

Man not just your body your life experience yeah that’s true I mean you kidding me look at [ __ ] I was doing at 18 these kids are still going to prom and that’s the thing yeah sometimes I try to remind myself totally move away from home when you’re 6 you got you feel

So much older by the time you’re you know you’re 27 28 you feel like you know I mean and listen a lot of the guys yeah I have to grow up fast right so it’s it’s it’s different um so I think you know even though we’re in our early 30s

You feel way the way the older that right do you ever skate now after Hawk like after retirement you ever put them on or I I’ve I I was coaching for a long time and um back when I was in Toronto for a bit I was doing a Friday night game with a

Couple of the guys yeah shiny hockey whatever beer league stuff um but I had like I’ve had like three different hip replacements and oh really Jesus really yeah so I just got my left one redone for a second time like what how many years apart were the two on the left um

Three so they it kind it’s it’s supposed to be like 15 years it just it just didn’t go right oh problem brutal you know so the the right one was like six seven years ago left one three years ago and the left one again just four

Months ago does the right one feel good though it’s okay I got a little like problem my like Hip Flex are growing but the hip’s fine hip’s great good yeah so the left one’s feeling a lot better even though it’s only been four should have gave you a heat pack before we started

Right [ __ ] it I used to walk around like the Michelin Man before games when I was 31 i’ I’d be completely wrapped like a mummy with those [ __ ] heat packs I I I I just had a surgery on my hand for some nerve thing and um I’m like a few

Weeks ago I’m finally starting to be like okay I get my hand surger my hips are better and my [ __ ] shoulder start you got a to that I swear to God I can’t even lift my arm up I I thought you were going to say you’re ready to maybe make a

Comeback know no thank you but uh um I was trying to shoot a basketball today at home and oh yeah you look like rig big failure huge failure and I’m like [ __ ] I can’t even shoot a basketball now like how I just pissed off that hopefully it’s not a surgery

Thing you know well I I didn’t play as many games as you but same thing like you start feeling good and then something else pops up like I I kind of I kind of came to grips with it like a year or two ago like I think this is

Just it now like what we did and you even more so it we we kind of crushed our bodies just no it it is and I wouldn’t change a thing well and it’s funny I get I get asked I got asked that the other day I get asked I get asked

All the time like the [ __ ] you you you know that you went through and all the injuries you’re de like you know it’s crazy um and I’m like what the [ __ ] else I yeah it was the trade-off you know like yeah it sucks ass it’s terrible

It’s like shitty and I don’t like it and it’s you know but would I havea traded it no [ __ ] I think every 44 year old guy who loved hockey growing up they’ they’d probably switch it right I I’ll deal with that that stuff um now the head

Stuff’s a little different but I’ve been luy with with that and a wood but yeah I I don’t have anything else man we’re very grateful for your time this is awesome as I told you my buddies you know Bruins fans watched you and and you called yourself The Hermit for a while

We didn’t I hadn’t heard your name and so I’m glad everything’s going well and thanks for coming on this was awesome a blast a career I’m stealing a pink Whitney On okay before we move along here here’s a few words from friends at Verizon hey like a lot of you I’m always relying on my phone to keep up with the latest news and hockey whether it’s streaming games searching for live scores across the NHL keeping up with

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More oh man huge thanks to Jason Al jump and all it’s one of my favorite Bruins back in that era uh he was a captain for one year just a guy was one of the most I think underrated centers of that ER era wit I mean only reason he left

Boston because he Harry S didn’t want to pay him but I know he kind of like ducked ducked out a little for a little while didn’t talk to anybody so we were very honored that uh his first time talking was with us and yeah and even

You know he started off kind of quiet and we I feel like we got a little bit more out of him but I mean even his final year in the league look at his numbers and he was just talked about the health and and and and how hard it was

Being away that first year I was I loved interviewing him he was a great guy and I just remember back to I don’t know I guess like 15 16 I always watching the Bruins and oh dude he would drag people on his back behind the net beautiful passer unreal career so we appreciate

Him coming on it was cool to to hear what he’s gotten into since he retired yeah like sitting down with like a legendary Uncle having a couple pops just telling stories just very old school you could tell just a calming presence too yeah so it was a great man

Appreciate your time Jason yeah definitely happy to do that one I just mentioned over uh 950 goal Seasons well a couple guys got their first ones ever on Sunday uh first Zack kimman his 50th versus Auto at man how about the reaction of his teammates BS just like

They were so ecstatic for him you can tell they were over the moon for just one of those like scenes regardless of who you root for just one of those like plays you just love to watch as a hockey fan well that’s what I love about Edmonton this year it seems like every

Every guy reacts that way for every guy when they have something positive happened like Cody CCE we talked about him a few pods ago but I mean himman his postgame interviewed said at all man you show up every day and you do things the right way and you keep going at it

Depending you it doesn’t fluctuate whether you’re having a good day or a bad day and he just brings his [ __ ] work boots and you know obviously it’s a result of playing with McDavid but he goes and for checks like a madman uh he’s Relentless he gets those pucks and

Provides them to McDavid and he just goes to the hard areas so uh not a lot of guys more deserving and as far as bang for your buck contracts this might go down as the greatest free agent signing of all time like he makes he’s a

50 goal scorer making 5 a half million bucks I I could argue the greatest it’s an awesome one it’s an awesome one um but you know there’s there’s like Chara and Boston and HOSA and Chicago but but but I I know I know what you’re saying

Um the deal the deal is amazing there’s an awesome article in the athletic about him uh Zack Heyman being one of the most unlikely 50 goal scorers in league history there’s been 11 I think he’s now the 12th guy uh player in league history

To get 50 or more goals at 31 years old or older and he’s one of them so the fact is that he goes in the article to talk about just just relentlessly looking to improve and over the years we’ve mentioned plenty of times of Crosby every summer figuring something

Out that he could get better at the first year was was uh faceoffs the next year was his shot and it goes on and on and heyman’s one of those guys where all right well my skating was doubted when I was drafted that was the big question

Mark Florida picked him in like the fifth round or something like that say all right I’m going to work on my skating goes to Michigan plays four years becomes a better skater all right what’s next I got to learn to have a little bit better finish he starts

Working on that and he’s never looked at it like oh I’m in the NHL I’m good like there’s some guys with the mentality of I’ve made it and those guys don’t necessarily last that long even the super talented ones they’ll be there seven eight nine years but it’s the guys

Who are never thinking that they’ve made it they’re always thinking somebody’s coming for my job somebody looking to take over what I now have I need to get better and he goes in to say I used to kind of when I started playing with McDavid I just kind of go in front and

Create a screen well he’s so good at beating people one-on-one that then it’s a two-on-one with me and him and if I’m just standing there in front of the goalie the guy covering me is going to immediately go to him cuz he’s not worried about me he starts working on

Just that little step back and you’ve seen the 50th goal was exactly that he just does a little push off step back bangs it in I think of the 50 41 are in the crease that’s just like like but and everyone says like oh it’s McDavid it’s McDavid tappens buddy not everyone could

Do that I’m telling you like you could grab so many different players with more skills than Hyman bigger than Hyman faster than Hyman and they it wouldn’t work like this he’s he’s been so good at becoming better every season that you just have to give him a a tip of your

Cap and so much respect for the fact that he’s never felt comfortable enough in the NHL to not outwork everyone and it’s an amazing story to see because fans and and Heyman says that’s the worst Heyman mentions people like that’s the worst contract ever he’s going to be

Brutal by the final few years of that deal and he says like if if you if you look at it like you’re always trying to get better and you’re treating your body as a temple you can play later into your 30s and still be elite and the whole

Notion of of NHL players their their Prime being 26 to 30 he almost believes the opposite that from 30 to 35 you can still be dominant if you’re looking after yourself in the correct way so as an Oilers fan watching him it’s amazing he’s always there and he’s also

On the four check he’s a he’s a Biz honey badger that’s biz’s term he gets in there he gets in the mix and he’s very easy to play with for somebody that has not even close to remotely the same skill level as McDavid nor not really

That anyone does he’s able to work with him perfectly so it’s an awesome story and congrats to him like a good four Checker individually is such a tough skill like to Hound it down because like when you dump it in most the times the defenseman’s going to win that foot race

To somehow like get the proper body position to knock him off the puck and then just get full control of it it was a like I felt like and I know I hate to bring him up with little PTSD but kunet I felt like kunetz was extremely good at

It and that’s a skill set in itself so when you can find a very reliable one I look at uh linan in um in Carolina much like or Colorado excuse me like when when Colorado went and picked him up like they knew what they were looking

For when they got him I think most people who didn’t really follow the Montreal Canadians were like oh that’s kind of like an an average pickup but no he’s specifically good at that so he can Hound it down retrieve it and then get it back to the players that you want

Having it and obviously having other skill sets too but that just so so happens to be his best in my opinion among being an incredible net front presence now his shot or goal chart looks the opposite of that guy from uh from Oakland the guy making all the

Threes where so this guy from Oakland who took over the NCA March Mages so at least game one uh what did he sync like 13 three-pointers in one game in the first game it was I think it was 11 yeah like it was it was a tied for the record in

NCA history he’d only taken eight shots throughout the entire course of this full NCA basketball season inside the three-point Mark everything else he shot from the outside we’re talking like 40 games here I think it was 373 Point attempts and eight two-point attempts that I feel like you really know what

You’re saying right now I thought I thought it was like two I thought he like had like two points from non three threes but Heyman the best um the the comp to me it’s it’s similar to krider like always in front of the net always tipping beast on the four check never

Had popped off like his 50g goal season I think he’d had 30 and upper 20s but then boom it’s that one magical year and because it’s McDavid it’s not fair to say it won’t happen again it’s kind of unlikely that he gets 50 again I think

He can get 38 42 and maybe I’m going to be completely proven wrong here but I mean Crosby’s only had 50 once there’s a lot of guys who’ve only had 50 once that are great goal scorers that it’s that one year that Everything You Touch Is

Turned to Gold so I don’t know I I I think that unfortunately the Oilers had one of the worst weekends in in months yeah I was going to actually bring up the fact that the leaf spanked them and I’m not even going to rub it in with cuz

I’m a classy guy unlike you the biggest thing is just like the lack of respect you have for the Toronto Maple Leafs like they’re a good [ __ ] hockey team they are a good hockey team right now they spanked your Oilers I I I lack of I I feel like I show them

Respect I feel like I say it’s a good team they won’t win the cup you laughed at my toughness comment you don’t think they you said they’re the toughest team in the league and you compared you compared um what’s his name to a Ferrari Matt n like I laughed at a Ferrari

Comment for Matt n and I laughed at them being the toughest team in the league they smashed my Oilers and they look good they’re not winning the Stanley Cup I respect the Leafs I do but they’re not cup contenders Ferrari Bobby mcmatthews is a [ __ ]

Ferrari I know he scares you if you’re a Bruins fan does Bobby mcmatthews scare youur right no chance oh here comes G again Mr unb not at all doesn’t scare one bit Big R gets back in the lineup by the end of the month I’m not worried one

Bit the problem the Oilers was they were getting pushed around and by the leavs like and not much was happening in terms of response that was disappointing I mean they sort of made it a game in quotations in the third not really but the bigger problem was all right stinker

In Toronto the Leafs were buzzing that’s a that’s a one-off we’re going into Ottawa buddy you lose to Ottawa 53 that’s when you’re like all right what’s going on here that’s a tough bounceback game you should go into Ottawa and be firing your pissed off about the effort

You’re pissed off with the lack of response and then you don’t even get a point out of that game that’s when it’s like h i mean they smashed Buffalo before that and then go to Ontario and lay an egg two in a row they probably went to Marble and hung out with deries

For hey Conor hey MC holy [ __ ] Conor have a Whitney BB let’s go come on Dr a onew punch herey Kuba get over here Kuba Conor’s here oh yeah man yeah at the same time though with like considering where they were at not too long ago like they they basically got themselves back

In the mix so I not surprised they having a little bit of a l here I mean they’re firmly un sconed on a playoff spot so a couple couple little bit of game slide I don’t think it’s too big of a deal for Edmonton but uh later in

Sunday Sam Reinhart uh he got goals number 49 and 50 just the second Panther to hit the 50 goal Mark after pav Beret got it done in 71 games his pry high was 33 a couple seasons ago he got done in 78 games with is he looking at at least

A $10 million uh per anom deal next time uh no not if he’s in Toronto he won’t get 10 million a year and he doesn’t need to with no state tax all that discussion you Florida you said Toronto there that would be a great ad for Le

This is hard well we already have one in Bob mcmatthews yeah sorry mcmatthews um no I don’t know what that deal I don’t know how that deal is going to come in they have some big tickets there they got a lot of guys signed to Big go long

Term so I obviously they want to keep him and and in talking to Posh and even talking to him he’d love to be there right why wouldn’t you be with the success you’ve had I don’t know how that ends up getting done it’s going to have

To be a Philipe forsberg deal where the season ends and you’re able to get him locked up before July 1st when he can go to anyone or after July 1st and still stick with Florida I I think we mentioned before and I don’t know if his

Agent would laugh us out of the building but if Florida was able to give him eight8 and a halftimes 8 I would think that at this point right now he’s looking at eight times nine I don’t think that but stay in Florida and love

It you you yeah I but I think yeah I I guess at his age I could see another team giving him uh probably n and a half to 10 so I think that they’ll have to get at least to eight and a half and if not between

There and 9 million and I think you would stay because even if you’re even after the state tax ramifications like even if you’re making 3 400k less you’re living in Florida man these guys love it there that team loves each other they got the new practice facility and

Lauderdale they take their golf carts over to it they it’s turned into a it was a laughing stock it turned into Tampa kind of where where everyone was like the crowds in Tampa and the teams they had and the players they’d get and the Panthers were a

Laughing stock and it’s all switched you got to give Vinnie Viola credit he’s the owner there and he’s done an amazing job of like just building the entire franchise in a different way where they’ve kind of started taking care of the players a lot better I think it

Wasn’t necessarily like it didn’t always feel like the highest um highest class like NHL facilities and how were treated and like little things that fans May scoff at but as a player it’s like ah a couple things should be better here and now it’s it’s as topnotch as anywhere

Else and so guys want to be there they want it’s a great team now interesting interesting Little Nugget for the Panthers fans um tereno went over there I think he had two goals in his first game or he he hasn’t had a point in five games he’s playing on a top line with

Barov and Reinhardt right so kind of got to get that going I don’t know what’s going on there with him maybe a little bit struggles and and getting involved with his new team but yeah they’re they’re they’re they’re they’ve peaked All Season they’ve shocked us we had we

Didn’t have them in the playoffs I mean it’s it’s pathetic it’s embarrassing to admit but they’re my favorite out of the East and I’ve said it for over a month and uh just going back to Reinhardt quickly I think that the the 50 a strong component to that is the way that they

Figured out to work this power play I mean he’s obviously the sniper on it but just the way that they operate and their Puck retrievals how if one lane closes they’re able to adjust and find the other they’re they’re strong their their goal line game is strong because they

Have kachuck and they have guys who can play down there they got the bombs from the point so really no weak links and anytime that they’ve looked for for a goal they’ve been able to came up with it on the on the special team so and

He’s the bumper guy so for you know he’s he’s the guy in the middle so you’re not really in possession of the puck as you’re snapping it around and sometimes people hate being the bumper guy you don’t feel in the mix you don’t really know where to go well he’s mastered it

And that’s how many of his Power Play Goals are one timers it’s much like you just talked about Heyman it’s these like quick subtle movements where alls it is is just making your stick available where that passing Lane opens up even if it’s 6 to 12 inches or even even if the

Guy’s got a stick down you know a guy like barkov or or or Matthew kachuck are going to find a way to Sauce it over in that perfect little weak side spot and that little bubble area and how he’s able to move around and it’s just that

Quick knee drop just touch it boom right off his stick top Cheese how’s your mom the Polish Prince’s back and he is buzzing what’s he have 30 Power Play Goals uh I’m not sure off the top of my head I don’t have it written we don’t

Want to work it too hard at the maybe maybe get like a stat machine at the T think you think if he get 50 you might know how many Power Play Goals he has hman only has 13 I was too busy pretty impressive too busy looking up that

Tereno actually did score yesterday when I was just going to let you know and in the end you’re a [ __ ] [ __ ] five games in a no points and now he got his sixth game he got a goal so I’m wrong I’m wrong I’m wrong H shout out to the panther bot too

What a great staff they have in that spot but well you don’t even remember being in there K come on I give you a play byplay from that night what are you talking about all right before we go any further here’s a few words from our friends at zip

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Minutes left in the second period they pull out a five full OT win Nate Dog a goal two assist gives him 122 points in 71 games he passes Joe sack for most points uh in a season in avalanche history stasy has the record for the franchise record 139 points he extended

His home point streak to 34 games scored at least a point every home game so far second only to Wayne Gretzky’s 40 back in 8889 in those 34 games he’s got 76 points he also has an 18g game point streak with 37 points in that he joins

Wayne as the only two guys who have two different point streaks of at least 18 games in the same season uh just an unbelievable [ __ ] year this guy’s having Biz we’ talked MVP enough on this just a special season with the Nate dogs doing right now I have blusters on my

Hands from the Buble wrers we’ve been giving the Nate Dog cuz he’s in [ __ ] sicko mode right now that’s all I got to say on it this guy’s on a different planet he’s in zone two post games doing the cardio he is locked and loaded he

Had to he had to dig deep in order to go to a different level in order to win an MVP trophy while Connor McDavid is in the National Hockey League this is this to me makes him a first ballot Hall of Famer in itself the fact that he’s going

To pull this off it has been a remarkable display of commitment and it is just so [ __ ] fun to watch and Tampa fans are flipping right now oh about me my comment or the fact that he has earned this in the season in which coov has done what he’s done like Tampa

Tampa fans would say like this is insane COV has done the same thing if not more that’s what that’s what I’m getting messages about you guys don’t understand you’re talking about McKinnon non-stop what the [ __ ] why aren’t you talking about COV the same way doing the exact

Same thing okay so so we’re doing uh Wednesday we got TNT with Wayne Gretzky and he watches a ton of H right I’m gonna ask him and this is a season where I mean McDavid might end up finishing off winning the the the points yeah it’s

Going to be hard right now I don’t know man be hard he might ramp it up um the the the craziest thing about McKinnon and is is this home point streak so going into the third period they were down 4-2 against the Penguins they scored late in the second to make it 4-2

He didn’t have anything yet it was he was one period away from from and I I’m really invested in this now not only because it’d be tying a Wayne Gretzky record but it wouldn’t be tying it would technically be breaking it cuz Wayne only played 40 games that year right so

He can end up being the the the obviously it’s each home game so it’s a tied record but an extra game almost gives him a little leg up that is insane to think about the home crowd buying the McKinnon jerseys them being everyone’s favorite player that him bringing a

Stanley Cup the first overall pick who changed his career after a few years and became one of the greatest players in the league he now has a chance to bring joy every single home game to these fans how many people are going in more than

One game a lot of guys they get their tickets for Christmas or beginning of the year they got one game and he’s got a chance to show them every single time they’ve been there a point like that’s unreal and like all these kids oh I want

To see McKinnon get a goal or an assist he’s done it so I I that’s a real a big- Time storyline coming down the stretch the third period he got one so easy a beautiful pass across uh across the Zone in the offensive zone goal and all up

There Merles goes there it is he got it so I I I can’t wait to see how this plays out it’s so fun to watch merley says that they are going to win the Stanley Cup with East and the biggest point being I don’t know if there’s a

Player more important to their team like n NuSkin when he went out all of a sudden what’s struggling he comes back dude he was a monster in every game since he’s come back and they they are somehow a different team with him in the lineup it’s one guy that just changes

Everything and I guess one more big weapon that really can’t be stopped down low his skating is unreal he beats defenseman wide it’s just like another element to their team somehow you shut down Ron and McKinnon and marar well if he’s not in the lineup don’t worry

You’re good you beat him no now Valerie nin’s in the mix again so Merl says no one’s sniffing him we got to talk about Sid Crosby too he had four points in that game uh goal and three assists it’s G given him 73 points in 70 Gam games he

Became the first active player in the nth ever to have at least 70 points in 14 or more seasons I mean impressive as hell Sid Crosby just add to the rec kind of uh kind of the way The Season’s gone for the Pittsburgh Penguins fumble [ __ ] and everything um and also you might

Have already said the stat uh first time in a long time back-to-back G uh days had a four-goal lead blown in the NHL I don’t know if you picked that one up online it’s is that the new worst leading hockey Biz the went from two nothing to 3 nothing 4 nothing we’ve

Seen it a bunch man it is crazy it’s it’s so I mean it makes the [ __ ] game way more exciting than it used to be I mean 20 30 years ago if team was down two nothing after two periods it was pretty much good night Irene but this

[ __ ] league is so good right now uh we got to congratulate nick lety uh played his 10,000th NHL game with St Louis the other night uh more than half those games came with the Isles also a few games with Chicago but we got to talk about the blues for a second

They’re still hanging around people thought they were dead a little while ago they got a huge game versus Vegas tonight they’re only four points back back of Vegas Vegas does have a game in hand uh who gets in out of these two teams with St Louis or Vegas here’s my

Theory I think that Vegas is doing that this on purpose so they can end up playing Vancouver that’s I I don’t think Vegas is doing anything on purpose the cap circumcisers aren [ __ ] they don’t have something up their sleeve with oh really vas Vegas the Vegas the other

Night well I heard a little rumor that stone wouldn’t be back till the finals if anything interesting yeah so apparently he he the injur is as legit as as it sounded when you hear spleen um who knows how that plays out but Vegas they are not doing anything on purpose

Dude the other night they they snuck out a win against the Blue Jackets which which everyone’s like oh this is a lock it’s Columbus they’ played the night before in Denver where they got slapped around and then they they flew down and they played in Vegas Vegas the first

Period they were getting owned it’s like what is happening to this team luckily they figured out and got a win but Vegas is just this is not on purpose nothing’s on purpose I think they get in it’s going to be interesting if the blues beat them in this game but they still

Have a game in hand and they’d still be up two points I think it’s probably a little too too little too late or no that’s not correct yeah too little too late but it’s not too little cuz they’re doing a lot I want to ask you this so

Uh I mean you guys might know more than Whit actually did Bruce Cassidy I want to say overstay his welcome but maybe he he his his uh his approach in the locker room wor a little thin on the players in Boston oh yeah do you think that that

Could you think that could be having its effect on on on Vegas possibly possibly like what’s what’s the reason right now I mean goaling hasn’t been what Aiden Hill’s out too right um they’ve played a lot of hockey the past few years though you know what I mean like well I know but

They also have a lot of players in the lineup who can alleviate pressure and still help get the job done like you just mentioned about Colorado like what makes them good is it doesn’t have to be that Top Line every night they have a second wave of offense like we can go

Through the the personnel and the players they have in their lineup they have a great back end I think they have confident goal tending which has been kind of shaky uh since the start of the year I felt like uh uh Logan Thompson was buzzing at the start of the year and

Then that’s dropped off so like what what is it and to me the only answer would maybe be like that sometimes the message runs a little bit dry I I I I think a big factor is is Stone not being there he is a leader dude like he is the

The ABS he has the pulse of that team the way he plays they follow like that’s an enormous loss day-to-day practice type habits things like that where this guy is getting these guys to play a certain way maybe there is some sort of factor with with Cassie like oh my God

Like this guy’s driving me crazy right now yeah but it can’t be lack of leadership they got Petra Angelo like it doesn’t but when it’s a captain it’s it’s the it’s the the guy wearing the SE man like okay so what what happened when when the Avalanche lost their Captain

They didn’t just [ __ ] roll over and die look at them they still don’t have their Captain I would say that that Landis scog and and stone are pretty comparable in skill budy you asked the question I’m just chucking out possible answers okay I I don’t know that I’m not

In the room but but this isn’t like the last three weeks since Christmas Vegas sucks they’re like a bottom 10 team in the league I think for the past few months so for some reason and stone hasn’t been gone that entire time so yeah I guess you’re right I I don’t

Really understand what’s going on and gee yeah they’ve played a lot of hockey with the run last year but they mentioned how they didn’t feel any sort of they could have played another round and they didn’t even make the playoffs the year before so it wasn’t like a long

Run the year before they won it all yeah Tampa saying hold my f hold my beer [ __ ] fcking one run congratulations that’s cute but if Vegas does get in which I think they will you can’t just flip this switch on you can’t all of a sudden like be struggling the last three

Months of the season and get in the playoffs and just turn it on the the teams that you worry about and I know I said I’m not too scared of Nashville if I’m a top team in the west you got to be playing well going into the playoffs though there’s no

Chance of just struggling and barely limping in and then turning it on when a teams I don’t remember ever a time where we’ve seen that like I can’t think of a time like you’re talking about where team when La want is the AC SE they played Great lead oh they were humming

In the back half so it’s it’s you’re not going to limp in as a lower SE seed maybe a lower seed who comes flying in like Nashville has a chance but Vegas is in a tough spot right now and if those rumors are true that stone is out if

There were to be a team though to all of a sudden it starts and they turn it on it would be the cap circumcisers yes agreed yeah they were getting some [ __ ] because they did Place uh Thomas hurdle on the uh LTI and everyone’s like oh they’re doing it again it’s like it

Doesn’t matter now the [ __ ] trade deadlines pass they can’t add anybody further and the guy hasn’t played since January 27th I think people just jumping on could you imagine the Vancouver Twitter folk the the Canucks if they meet in the first round and all of a sudden they

Start drumming them oh my God uh uh Whit just to go back to ryut uh 27 of his 50 goals have come on the pile play Florida has uh 61 pile playay goals he has 27 of them the same as the Columbus Blue Jackets collectively Columbus has 27

Power Play Goals this season that’s what ryin hot has Florida’s uh 26.2 power play uh fourth in the league so once again congrats uh to Nick Ley on a th games dude the Carolina Hurricanes I feel like they’re flying under the radar they’re only two teams with more than their 97

Points 112 and one the last 14 games they’re right on the Rangers Hills this Seth Javis man we got to get him on the show this kid is Absol character yeah he scored in six straight games seven goals four of them a game with his uh then he

Tripped bernzy for for his pass in the overtime game when it said it was a brutal pass and then he he slurping on the Red Bull in the postgame interview saying I got to get some pcka whatever he said this kid’s an absolute character but what are people underestimating

Carolina right now or what I’m not I’m not not anymore I’m not anymore and I always was one of the people who dogged them I think this year they can get it done I’ve never said that before and gensel has fit in there like oh my God

Him and Jarvis they it looks like they’ve played together forever like they’re pointing at each other after sick goals like there’s and AO AO is just out of this world right now they have a great defense Anderson’s healthy they are an awesome team what’s crazy is I would say what there’s like seven

Teams that could win the president’s trophy the president’s trophy in the end I mean we saw Boston it doesn’t really matter guy makes about 25 Grand what each guy gets a little bit of a bonus too dude if you win the president’s trophy you get a I think it’s like a

Million dollar bonus for the guys in the locker room to share but how many times have you seen a race like this for the president’s trophy where it’s it’s it’s there’s how we got the Rangers we got Florida we got Vancouver we got Colorado we got Carolina Boston it’s kind of wild

Going coming down the stretch in terms of who it’s it’s you think they’re going to call each other and just say will split it no it’s it’s home ICE throughout the playoffs so I meant the pile of money no I I know I know I know

Yeah I didn’t think that was going to happen um you talked about gensel fitting you talked about gensel fitting in so far I think he’s been on the ice for 15 goals four zero against he hasn’t been on the ice for a goal against not

For a goal against so far in his tenure with the Carolina hurricane so if you’re there man you’re a fan you must be loving life their team is firing on all cylinders the ketov story and him Reviving and and being back in the mix and contributing and smiling and doing I

Mean as far as entertainment value in the postgame interviews their team is providing everything right now there isn’t anything they’re not doing remember we were chirping on they had the mom’s trip this year they had Martin no’s mom on the broadcast like they’ve been doing it all remember beginning of

The year after dominating with the Bruins orov was brutal he was struggling and he looks great now figuring out that man- on- man maybe helped after after you know a few months being on Carolina I can’t wait to see how it goes I need Rangers Carolina in the second round I

Need that I told mentioned the game a couple weeks ago it was it was it was out of this world entertainment back and forth great goal tending those two teams in the second round will be one of the best series of the playoffs yeah gel he’s got a two goals 10 assists and

Eight games already huge addition for them and we got to shout out Freddy Anderson as well I know every time we talk about Carolina mentioned him but he’s been lights out since coming back after a blood clot issue uh 5-0 with the 1.40 goals against 946 save percentage a

Shut out and just seven goals allowed in those five games so fredd and hitting your stride with hitting your stride with energy where he could maybe handle a playoff load now by himself cuz they usually done this one two goalie system that’s another big element too that you

Got to you got to factor in this season could be a quickly quickly staying in that division quick T’s and P’s to the Islanders and their fans oh holy [ __ ] man everything looked great it it was it was walk came over they started winning

And they they fell apart I I I I did not see this coming I think I said on a show they’re going to get in and I don’t want to play them and it’s been complete downhill misery ever since for Christ’s sake the devil’s beat him posh’s Devils

Beat him they’re horrible I was talking to Frankie about it he’s supremely I don’t know if that’s the right word disgusted with with the the fans and like the the the energy in the building I guess it’s been not even close to sold out and just not getting the love and

And granted now it’s like the fans are probably pissed off should they move them that arena is in is in a terrible location that was one of his biggest things is it’s just hard to get people there like for for games in terms of like after work and you’re not getting

The crowd from Manhattan and it’s just but I watched the game it seemed dead there he’s like yeah dude it’s been tough been tough sleding and I’m surprised hasn’t gone to valam off more with I mean sokin as good as he is he’s been struggling a lot he hasn’t looked

Good at all and I mean V’s a pretty goddamn good goal he’s got better numbers than him I’m surprised he hasn’t gone to him a lot more in these mus situations I agree with you definitely surprised with that uh well back to New York the Rangers a couple Milestones

From they spank the Bruins here 52 Thursday night then they beat Florida in a shootout to hang on her first in the Metro I tery panarin absolutely on fire had his third hatrick of the Season his first 40G goal season he’s got 99 points in 71 games uh shout out to Jonathan

Quick he earned his 391st win versus Boston that night tied Ryan Miller for the most wins ever by an American goalie and uh congrats to Peter laviolet coached his 1500th NHL game here in his home state Thursday so congrats to those guys Rangers keep rolling along I mean

You do you think teams are scared of them with like I mean sh has been playing out of his mind they should they should be right yes and and and talking to Rangers fans Lazarus mentioned it on the on the um trade deadline show like this window will close sooner than

People realize and and panan is having a career year and shesterkin turned everything around and Adam Fox is this top level defenseman and krider’s in the peak probably the back nine of his career he’s still a great player but everything’s going to just end in New York a little quicker than you might

Think so it’s like this is a go Year buddy this is all in and they’ve been all in obviously last year with the Kane and the Terra Senco deal but you got to look at it like there is no first first round exit this year if we can’t get get

It done this year I don’t know if we will get it done I mean buddy they got one they got one cup in about 90 years yeah and they’re worth a [ __ ] ton of money and this is an original six top-notch franchise and you can’t look

At the future right now if you’re the Rangers and and and in saying all that they have a a chance as good as anyone to win it all I I I love that team panan for panan what he’s done to not be in the MV MVP discussion it shows as Biz

Biz said the sicko mode of of all the of McD David McKinnon and COV because he’s right there he’ll probably finish fourth or fifth because to get 40 I he’d never had 40 right did you just say that yeah yep he had and he’s probably he’s got 99

Say he finishes right around I don’t know 110 115 points to waste a season like this is I’m I’m long-winded in saying would be an absolute disaster yeah I think you know he’s obviously going to get it done in the playoffs that’s I think probably been the one

Knock in his career since he been in the ranges he hasn’t got a done then so we’ll see what happens there and I mentioned they beat the Bruins here Thursday well the Bruins they lost game then they lost to the Flyers on Saturday they do have 97 points I mean only two

Teams have more than them but it feels like I don’t know you talk to other fan bases B it doesn’t seem like people are afraid of the Bruins uh pav zaka one of the few bright spots been awesome he’s averaging a point the game in March so

Far but the goalies man they’ve been struggling uh like lately even saw this save percentage team save percentage third overall but I haven’t been too impressed with the goal tenons Biz what do you see that the Bruins are doing wrong and are they a real threat are they

Fugazi no no they’re not fugazi but they they could like easily lose in the first round especially if they play the Toronto Maple Leafs I talk about this all the time they have a great no buddy they have a great power play they have a great penalty kill uh they got a solid

Back end they got Superstars up front now he brought it to Toronto no it’s just funny you’re like he’s like what’s up with Boston you’re just listing off Toronto’s strings no I no I was talking about Boston there I’m saying telling you what they got Oh I thought you

Mention Sor no no they got a better back end than Toronto I’ve said that before they got Char m you talk about the the the the goal tending though like that to me is the the biggest issue about you’re going into the playoffs that was what

Kind of [ __ ] them over last year was the mismanagement of that I think that they have a very competed team they try to address the middle of the ice the fact that zaka is coming into his Zone and playing his best hockey right now is

Is huge but yeah I just uh I I don’t view them as a big of a threat as last year I I view them as a coin toss team come first round regardless of who they play whether they can make it out alive I think that they’re considered um you

Said frauds R I wouldn’t use that word at all but my thought process is probably the high percentage of NHL fans thought process that if you couldn’t do it last year there isn’t a chance in hell you’re doing it this year and and yes it’s been it’s been a great defense

Like oriented and led team with the goal tending and and and McAvoy and linol and but in the end like I’m going to take it over you can take just take a few take a few breaths this is a twitch I have to see a where’s

Better help I got to do that ad today speak without those three words R I think that if I think that if you wanted to view a team as a threat you would say even if they get average goal tending I see I could see them steamrolling through the Stanley Cup I

Think that’s probably why Merl said that and going back to when they won it two years ago like if you look at Ker’s numbers like they got average goal tending hey yeah you need to make the big saves when when they come up but if if Boston were to win the Stanley Cup

You’re going to have to see their goenda Louis like you’re going to have to get that 915 save percentage and that two goals against average so like they’re relying heavily on that and if it’s a little fickle going into playoffs that’s where I just don’t deem them as a

Threat are they frauds no because any team they end up playing against they’re going six or seven games and they’re playing their dicks off and they’re going to play ball Boston Brewing hockey so a fraud to me would be like a team going in there and just getting drummed

And looking out a place that will not be the case for the Boston Bruins last thing on the Bruins is a little exciting uh Prospect i g I guess is this Justin brazel cool story never drafted uh played in the ol North Bay Battalion didn’t you play for North Bay I did I

Played there when it was the centennials the north bay centennials that’s such a classic ol name but spent time in the coast his first year Pro and even 2122 play 18 games for the main Mariners in the coast buddy he’s got seven goals in 15 games or five goals seven points in

15 games a big body in front of the Nets he scored some really nice goals in tight so that’s a guy like as a bigger guy in the playoffs that could be a huge huge fine for them so there’s going to be some question marks in terms of um is

It is it uh shaton Kirk will he be in the lineup for playoffs or or is it Peak the guy they brought over that’s a that’s maybe they got to make a decision there all of a sudden will brazzo be in the lineup will will we see um who’s the

Who’s the young rookie that’s played real well the fourth liner G um geeky no not geeky you’re not thinking of Lo are you loco like like can he like bring his game to the playoffs because like he’s a water bug out there with energy so I I I

Would never say they’re frauds but to me they can’t win the cup I’ll leave it at that uh they [ __ ] they got a lot of like these no-name guys all of a sudden that have came up like a lot of like non-traditional Brewing guys where it’s like their first or second year is

Making big impacts been awesome you just mentioned him Biz he had a great assist the other night he’s been I think he’s been incredible great in the face off draw too did that I know they made it 22 and then Fox made it 3-2 quick against the Rangers I

Didn’t watch that that game were were the Rangers taking it to him or was it more evenly matched two we got two empty netas that’s okay so it was a hell of a game then yeah it was a battle it ble game all right all right before we move along

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And they’re going to add a couple of Ru tweaks for next season among them that coaches are going to be able to challenge the high sticking penalties in pakata play that something that they weren’t able to do I don’t know is that a big thing with I guess challenging the

Pakata I mean it’s pretty obvious if a guy hits out of what do you mean well he’s saying he’s saying why even make it where you can challenge it I I saw something where like they’ve gotten too wrong like this year they they either missed or called it and it was incorrect

Twice which it’s like why is that end up being something that you can challenge I guess they’re looking they’re looking to button up any possible thing in the playoffs that that a team and a fan base could go bananas in terms of Miss calls so I guess I understand it while also

Seeing we might we might not even see that once that review but you said the high sticking review they couldn’t they can’t I thought they were already able to review that or were they able to review if it was if it was in the follow

Through of a shot I I think it was more of it was a major penalty I think it was that that’s what the rules before if it was a major penalty they wanted a double check so they didn’t like give a guy a match penalty and throw him out this is

Just a typical high sticken incident where it’s not necessarily like a guy getting bloody or a five minute major just the option so so if they make the call a high stick and then they go back they’ll be able to review if it was his teammate stick now yeah it’s yeah it’s

Not the it’s not like a five type thing okay all right well people don’t want to hear about more reviews being available just going to say [ __ ] slow it down but if you’re going to if if if if you’re going to make sure that there’s nothing that can be left to chance we

Talked about the offside we talked about the goal tender interference then you got to go all in I don’t necessarily agree with it but I kind of understand where they’re like all right we’re taking away any single thing that you can’t review that you now will be able

To like with a team being screwed over anything that they went over that you think that people would have liked to been changed but they didn’t OT oh they okay so they went over that whether to extend the three on three no yeah I think it came out no changes in

In the near future right ra yeah yeah they’re not doing anything with that and as far as the high sticking they can be uh the challenge can be initiated when a play is struck by a teammate stick the puck or his own stick and as far as the

Puck over glass a challenge can be used to take down a penalty uh you know as opposed to just getting stuck with a penalty that yeah that’s a huge thing too with the pock over of glass we’ve seen playoff games decided by that [ __ ] I can’t stand that for freaking rule I

Think it’s would you um would you rather see guys go down to to two on two then oneon-one then see a shootout I was just thinking one-on-one one-on-one you might not even see a shot though oneon-one like how often are you going to just completely burn someone one-on-one

Besides a few guys in the league I would say if you’re not angling properly guys will be getting roasted but it would it wouldn’t be much angling it would just be like playing like back backwards skating I feel like oh but but and like a length of the ice oneon-one no because

You have to Gap up like a guy can just gain speed rounding the net so what who’s passing it to him you you would have to create the separation one-on-one so like at some point you’re going to get it and like you can like quickly attack to back them

Off and then boom regroup so like quote unquote raged but if like let’s say you you you get the puck back at let’s say the blue line right you can start Wheeling behind your net now if that guy doesn’t kind of Gap up properly and take

A proper angle he’s [ __ ] so so if it was two forwards it would be entertaining as hell but if you threw a defenseman out against the forward I don’t think it would I don’t think it would be as entertaining as you think okay that’s that’s my opinion people

People might be confused right now but back when I was playing minor hockey when more time when I would go to summer hockey tournaments that’s how they would figure out overtime where you would start out at that time it was five on five and then ever after every like I

Think you do five minutes of that and every minute minute after that you would lose a guy I just if you’re playing two on two to oneon-one there’s not there’s not a lot of games in my opinion that are going past 10 minutes yeah 10 that’s an extra five

Minutes they don’t even want to do an extra two minutes but I I I I’ve I’ve always brought up I I want to just get rid of offside review literally it disappears but it was interesting talking to Big Cat who’s who’s a hockey fan but not you know when the Blackhawk

Serenity is watching all the time and he said right away he’s like well what if they miss a call like he didn’t even like he looked at it more like what if you get a call wrong so maybe that is a bigger sentiment with fans that they’d

Rather the reviews than a team be offside and end up scoring and their team losing I didn’t even think of it like that obviously it’s kind of stupid of me to say but I just want to just get rid of it where the you’re counting on

The refs who for the most part get it right bang on and you just live with that but as a as a as a not a fringe hockey fan but on the outside he was just like right away he’s like well what if they miss it so I guess that is that

Is the new age of like we’re not going to miss anything that’s what they’re looking at I think if you I think in order to eliminate a lot of the review and then offsides in general would be as if as soon as the puck touches blue ice

It’s then ons side as opposed to it Crossing that would be my only uh silly rule change I guess we could move on yeah I think as a fan when you have the technology you do want to get it right because I mean if your team loses a

Playoff series on a obviously offsides play man that’s a kick on the balls when you have the technology to you know go back and fix it well or or like when ilio lost the [ __ ] Mr Heist bet you were to won uh also one other note the

League uh they have not started the formal expansion process yet I I who knows if they’re gonna they don’t appear to be any Rush obviously St Louis I’m sorry Salt Lake City in Atlanta they put the bids out but the league doesn’t seem to be in any sort of rush right now so

Uh move right along G NCAA the attorney is set the brackets is set what do you got for us buddy yeah I mean even last weekend it was an incredible weekend in college hockey championship weekend uh Big 10 Championship Michigan vers Michigan State ended in an OT Thriller

At Michigan State’s Barn so you just the man score what’s that did the Iceman score the Iceman did not score no wow but the bracket did come out like R mentioned uh Sunday night and it’s super exciting because it could lead to a bcbu national championship and that’s

Actually how I have my bracket playing out I have BC coming out of the Providence bracket I have North Dakota coming out of St Louis they probably would have been a one seed if they didn’t blow it in the CHC semis to Omaha they were a top five Team all year just

Dominant Jackson Blake is incredible um the Springfield division is super tough because Denver pretty got pretty shafted here they have to play UMass in Springfield so essentially a home game for UMass so I could see UMass pulling off that upset and then I could see Maine actually coming out of that that

Bracket I mean they’re an older team they do have the no brothers bet them the other night and they lost who’ they get beat by be yeah you bet M that game oh no sorry I bet the draw mer that was a mer bet mer draw [ __ ] mer uh Maine has Cornell so

They’re always tough they’re always usually a big team um Frozen 4 is going to be Electric in Minnesota uh so bu’s in Maryland they have RIT yeah be be using uh sou Falls actually let me ask you this you tweeted something out about how you think it’s ridiculous that they

Do uh um uh neutral site games in the Regionals yeah I think if if this weekend was we learned anything from this weekend seeing a big 10 championship game between Michigan and Michigan State at Michigan State the crowd raring it was just an insane atmosphere that is by far the best part

Of college hockey I think if you go to a game it’s the bands play It’s the chance it’s the crowds you need to embrace that right so I personally believe that the one seeds should be hosting the instead of so how the NCAA tournament does it is they host Regional neutral location

Regional spots so this year it’s Providence Springfield Mass sou Falls and then uh Missouri so it’s St Louis technically um and that’s ridiculous because like like last year Manchester New Hampshire Allentown Pennsylvania if it wasn’t foren State being hear you it would have been a joke I just it doesn’t

Really make much sense to me why they do this David Carl the head coach of Denver has been adamant all year you’ve been seeing him pushing it on social media that it’s time to change this this is Antiquated this is stupid and let’s embrace the fans let’s embrace the

Traditions and let’s let the one seeds host the it gives people something extra to play for to get that one seed now is the reason behind that is because like a one seed could be from a a conference or division that’s a lot weaker but yet

They see him rolled through it so that’s why they do it no no a weaker conference would never get like a one like what do you mean well well just like for instance it’s like uh um like between BC and Buu like what makes one what makes

Two is it their record so they have the par wise standings as well a lot it goes into strength of schedule like it’s it’s totally like a math equation in terms of who has the the top ranking based on who you’ve played how you’ve done against the best teams all these different

Factors go in to like the pairwise ranking which ends up being the NCAA top 16 so that’s obviously fact in factoring in then if a team was playing weaker competition in a weaker conference so then that answers my question so and and listen some some years you’re going to

Get shafted by like a couple percents where you wouldn’t get to host it but I agree with you g at least like for two of those Regional games you’re going to have a sold out barn and I’m sure like a [ __ ] even the kids not playing at

Home at or or you said it was Michigan Michigan State those Michigan guys probably Lov the fact that that was pumped like it was exactly exactly like who love you love playing villain I think kids would so much rather play villain as opposed to going and playing

In Manchester United they want to go by the student section with like the glove on the stick acting like a selfie stick and and giving the the crotch grab to the crowd I hear you I’m all on board you guys got me invested in uh Boston high school hockey now I’m invested in

NCAA you guys are just all over the map so according to the Grand Forks Herald um they said that according to conversations with a dozen College hockey leaders there are athletic directors and coaches who believe that it’s unlikely their teams will ever be in a top eight of the pairwise rankings

And then have the ability to host so they’d rather play in empty Arenas in the middle of a college hockey what a bunch of [ __ ] idiots stupid it’s [ __ ] mind and they and they go to dumps too no offense to the the regional spots but they’re always it’s about

Selling the [ __ ] game just cuz your school stinks and you can’t give them Louis vuon full of money to come kind of a legit article though if you look at yourself as a team who will get into the NC NCA tour but never be a one seed

You’re like it’s going to be so much harder for us to get out of a home team’s bar I kind of see that and hadn’t thought of that I’m still completely on your side G like Buc Denver how about this how about doing a [ __ ] rev split

Of what that gate is and then you can have a little bit more money to continue to develop your program Like Money Talks there’s ways around this uh I I do have to mention BC just walloped be in the hockey title game this fraking Fowler

Kid oh my God this goddamn goalie is a nightmare the same kid you’ve been pumping his tires you should SE should se you should have seen one of the saves he made the it was already like 5-1 when he made it but diving across like

Dominic hasik and I I do think Buc are going to play in the national title game be they set it up this way for it to happen and I think Will Will Smith ended up leading the nation and scoring correct yes he did leading the nation scoring is a freshman first time that’s

He’s from he’s from he’s from Boston area and he had a hat trick in the hocky title he had four he had four in in the hockey championship for Christ’s sake what an absolute stallion uh actually a quick note for He Who Shall Not Be Named

Uh JT Miller just the fourth conu hit uh multiple Seasons with 90 plus points uh joining Marcus nasland hendrik sadine and Pavo Beret we don’t have to mention that guy’s name but shout out to JT Miller for another season with 90 points uh all right boys uh this is the T tough

Part of the program uh there was some tough news after we recorded last week just actually terrible news uh Chris Simon an enforcer played 15 NHL Seasons with uh seven different clubs uh he died uh via suicide per a statement from his family he was just 52 years old uh the

Statement from his family read the family strongly believes in witness firsthand that Chris struggled immensely from CT CTE which unfortunately resulted in his death we are grieving immensely with the loss of our son brother father partner teammate and friend uh the entire Wawa Community is sharing in our

Grief we will not be Rel releasing any further details at this time and ask for privacy during this very difficult time we appreciate everyone who shares now a tragic loss uh Simon he said some difficulty since leaving the game he said Bank bankruptcy uh significant brain trauma just a a terrible story and

Then just awful day later in the same day found out that former penguin Constantine colof also died as well he was just uh 42 years old I believe Whit you played with him for a stretch just one of the best skaters I’d ever seen just a just a a horrific day in hockey

Once again we we hate to see this stuff and obviously without closing out saying we extend our deepest condolences and sympathies to family friends and teammates of these guys but it just I don’t know Biz I’ll throw it to you because yeah you you played you you you

You know been through this road I haven’t I just I don’t know I’m kind of a lost for words when we deal with this stuff yeah I mean you know we talk about fighting on the podcast all the time and and and this is the you know this is

Kind of the other side of it and how how dark it can be and obviously we’re in a time where guys aren’t really doing it like they did in the past and and Chris Simon was was one of the toughest guys to do it and um you know un

Unfortunately you know it it can cause issues and and sometimes those issues also in in the feeling that you get before the games and after the games can result in in in other things that happen so I don’t want to speak at a turn here but obviously he was going through some

Personal struggles that resulted into to where where um where it ended up and it’s just horrible like I don’t want to take away from what happened by by speculating either either and it’s just uh it’s a tough way to earn a dollar um and like you said condolences to his

Family with and we I was on the Jr podcast and we talked about just like you know when you’re you know what are the emotions going into games and what are the result of maybe dealing with the anxiety of having to get up and and go fight guys constantly like I don’t know

What his struggle was in order to manage that I know that you know sometimes that anxiety led me to you know drink and and do other things to take my mind off it and you know it’s it’s uh not not the not the best result let’s just say that

So um it’s a tough job like I said and just a horrible horrible result that day was just so horrible and and you you think of of colov and Chris Simon’s family right away and and then my mind wandered to Glenn Healey and and

What a what a a really hard day for for the alumni of the NHL to see two guys that um had so many friends and and so many fans in the game and and for them to pass away it’s truly heartbreaking like suicide is is such a horrible horrible issue that that

Probably I feel like doesn’t get talked about as as much as it should I mean there there are people everywhere and all walks of life and and like all you say in our family was affected by it my my aunt my my father’s uh sister took

Her own life and you’re just you’re just so broken inside and and in thinking that somebody thought that that was the answer and and and maybe thinking um you know these people would be better off if I wasn’t here like that’s never the case and I I

Remember talking to my dad after and I I actually remember growing up and he talked to my brothers and you know things like that come up and in parent child discussions and him just saying nothing is ever that bad nothing is ever ever ever that bad and you could tell

Somebody that till you’re blew in the face and and and you’re dealing with depression Chris Simon I I I I I’ve heard he really had some financial troubles and all these things rolled into one and you’re you’re just heartbroken to hear that somebody would would think that that would be the

Answer and and it’s just it’s just terrible and it’s it’s not just hockey and people bring up the CTE there there are arguments to that no doubt but I mean people are committing suicide everywhere everywhere and and and men men are younger men and and dealing with

Not being able to deal with issues in life and and you understand people are down and out and broken inside but you just you just hope you can get through to a few people maybe listening right now that nothing is ever that bad and so

To to to hear that news it was just horrible and and I played with colov he was a great guy one of as bis said one of the fastest skaters I’ve ever seen the biggest legs he was just a horse first round pick and he was he was a

Good dude he didn’t you know I didn’t know him super well because of the language barrier I actually texted Brooks orpic because they were pretty close and as as anyone who was friends with him or was stunned and just so crushed by that he said he’d spoken to

Him a month prior he was dating uh sabalenka I think top tennis player in the world for women and you can’t imagine what these families are going through but when talking about suicide it’s just you hope you can get the message through to someone that that

Talk to someone even if you think you’re in the depths of hell and that nobody could make you feel better like give it a chance give it a try like a last Stitch effort I’ll say in terms of just speaking to someone and trying to make

Your feelings be felt in terms of how much you’re hurt and so it was it was it’s a hor a horrible way to end the show and and that news it hit me hard and it’s just it was a sad day yeah another tough day for hocky and another

Death I just want to pass along some those a much older uh act the ACT em EMT Walsh he played Dicky dun and slapshot this is actually the Third cast M from slapshot we’ve lost in the last few months uh he passed away at 88 years old one of the most prolific character

Actors in Hollywood history so he was a vont guy so he uh friends and family of his we extend our condolences as well and G before we wrap up chicklet you Wednesday what time’s it popping off at uh 6 PM chicklet you the Holy Grail of college hockey North Dakota all right

All right gang everybody have a great week be wellcome yeah and we also just quickly have to thank uh Pink Whitney laat blue and laat blue light we had to take down that video on our YouTube channel and and obviously they were okay with it so they’re always rolling with

The punches they’re incredible sponsors so thank you to them and and everybody who showed up to iceon and and all the staff at the bar stool Chicago it was an incredible four days for us and uh and DraftKings Sportsbook and DraftKings in general just uh thank you guys for

Everything I know Yan is punching the steering wheel right now I got I got to thank you I can’t believe I can’t believe we almost forgot uh the golf podcast subpar oh Colt no and uh the SLE man man the SAS so they they host an awesome podcast um so you could check

Out out wherever you listen to your podcast we got their Studio these guys were nice enough to let us use their Studios awesome office they have here uh 8 AM golf I believe Justin Timberlake’s an investor the owner of a bunch of different like Mira Golf and all these

Different things so check out subpar I think Biz and I are going to be going on there uh with these guys a little bit later and we appreciate them let letting us use their studio so everyone um tough way to end the Pod but hug your loved

Ones have a great week we’re excited for playoffs excited for the stretch and as always thank you so much for listening and all your support Whit had a bit of a crutch today uh prus promises I don’t think it’s just today I think it’s a legit problem I

Can’t stop saying in the end it’s a three-word tick that even after saying if I say it again I get a sack whack I said it four more times so at some point you got to face the music we’re going to play golf too this could ruin my whole

Round but in the end it was a great pod so we’re going to keep it light on him sack top episode I would have sacked you so ice thank you let’s go we love you chck Nation serious thank you you’re classy guy

On Episode 489 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by Jason Allison (01:04:15) to talk about his hockey career, his time with the Boston Bruins, and life post career. But first, the guys recap a wild weekend in Chicago and Scottsdale at the insane IceCon. Later on, the boys talk about the race for the playoffs and what teams are on watch. We got some new members to the 50 goal club and Nathan MacKinnon is continuing his insane MVP caliber season. Will NCAA hockey remove neutral site regional tournament games? But in the end, another solid episode from the boys.

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