Cool. But there’s an entire hockey team surrounding marner that also didn’t do anything. Are we just gonna not talk about that?
This isn’t a mitch manner issue like it isnt a diamond. It’s a leafs franchise issue. Period.
Gear4Vegito
Pathetic and Unacceptable are very accurate words.
kingex11
Finally someone on TV said it. Marner has been awful all series long.
meh_33333
Savage. But Marner is broken.
Master_Republic_144
Marner isn’t playing well, but I wonder if Biz realizes that it isn’t a diamond PK, it’s a completely different system
postmodern_lasagna
Literally league min Robertson could be the top guy better than that, I’ve seen it, holy.
Football_Fantatic
You know it’s bad when even the American broadcasters are calling you out.
mikasaxo
I literally was screaming into the void for Keefe to sit Marner back in game 3.
2b_0r_n0t_2b
I got [my post thumbed down](https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/HfPL7rwz8g) about complaining about Marner’s softness after game 2. Yes, we just won the game so everyone was in the mood to defend Marner. But I saw it right away, he wasn’t playing up to his potential. He needs to not be elevated to the first line immediately. He’s still a decent player, but we need to stop treating him likes he’s an 11m player cause he’s playing closer to a $4m player.
Super_Sandro23
Interesting seeing the US ads
raps82
Biz is 100% right. Players are banged up around this time of year and play through a variety of injuries. What’s the excuse for his shit play in previous playoff failures?
Experttom
Wow I’ve been saying this shit for 5 years finally
Experttom
I think he’s doing this shit on purpose
leafsbroncos18
Great analysis
NacchoTheThird
First clip, Marner can skate further along the boards into the zone and change his angle of attack instead of peeling away, especially since he’s drawing 2 Bruins’ attention… even if Lybushkin’s pass could have been better. But of course that would invite physical contact from the Bruins’ player and that’s a no-no.
Second clip he gets his feet knocked under him and trips. Simple as that. A nothing burger.
Third clip is another nothing burger. He’s reaching with the stick because the Leafs’ backcheck was not there on that rush, something that arose from the LAST shift.
The PK shift is certainly him roaming but why isn’t Samsonov being criticized for going down early and neutering himself? Marner could have tied up the Bruin in front of the net though.
All in all, a 5/10 in clip selection that seemed more predatory than it did informative.
Training-Site-7019
Blows my mind that there’s still people defending Marner. Absolutely pathetic Hockey player
403DonOChron
gOOfy team. Bunch of princesses. Toronto needs to build a different culture
Old_Canuck
This EXACTLY WHY you pay people AFTER they have won something and not before.
Heelsbythebridge
How would any team want Marner after seeing him disappear year after year in the playoffs at that price tag?
One of the best bits I ever heard. Was 2 years ago when Marner got carjacked and the Queensway Cineplex was that he wouldn’t have been there if they had made it out of the first round
Hoardzunit
He’s not even a $7 million dollar player.
james-HIMself
You bench him to send a message in the locker room. At this point Plank from Ed Ed and Eddy would be a better option than Marner. Hope he figures it out for game 5.
xtzferocity
How can you justify a raise for this guy? Can’t even hit 100 pts.
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lukaskywalker
Love him getting all the hate. Guy is a fucking joke. Tell him he’s getting fourth line minutes. No power play next year unless he waived his nmc.
TiredReader87
Marner got paid. That’s all he cares about. He doesn’t have to win.
#THANKSDUBAS
LifeAfterWilly
they should do one for willy too
was just as bad if not worse last night
brownmagician
He doesn’t deserve the money he’s earning and his salary has done a lot to hurt this roster. I’ve flip flopped on a ton of things but always always have been consistent on this view
Francis33
Marners had over an Hour and 26 minutes of Ice Time this series
This is Mitch Marner every single playoffs. He is super highly skilled and a fantastic playmaker but he has zero battle. When the games get tight he can’t fight through checks or make his own/find new space. Lots of soft players have great playoffs because they can either fight through a check (Nylander) or make their own space (Kane). Marner can’t do either. Marner excels when the games get silly, when there is lots of space. When games are low event and tight checking you get floppy Marner falling all over the place or forcing passes. And then you get the rare beast that is sulky Marner where the body language is poor and the otherwise excellent defensive game starts to go.
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Cool. But there’s an entire hockey team surrounding marner that also didn’t do anything. Are we just gonna not talk about that?
This isn’t a mitch manner issue like it isnt a diamond. It’s a leafs franchise issue. Period.
Pathetic and Unacceptable are very accurate words.
Finally someone on TV said it. Marner has been awful
all series long.
Savage. But Marner is broken.
Marner isn’t playing well, but I wonder if Biz realizes that it isn’t a diamond PK, it’s a completely different system
Literally league min Robertson could be the top guy better than that, I’ve seen it, holy.
You know it’s bad when even the American broadcasters are calling you out.
I literally was screaming into the void for Keefe to sit Marner back in game 3.
I got [my post thumbed down](https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/HfPL7rwz8g) about complaining about Marner’s softness after game 2.
Yes, we just won the game so everyone was in the mood to defend Marner. But I saw it right away, he wasn’t playing up to his potential. He needs to not be elevated to the first line immediately. He’s still a decent player, but we need to stop treating him likes he’s an 11m player cause he’s playing closer to a $4m player.
Interesting seeing the US ads
Biz is 100% right. Players are banged up around this time of year and play through a variety of injuries. What’s the excuse for his shit play in previous playoff failures?
Wow I’ve been saying this shit for 5 years finally
I think he’s doing this shit on purpose
Great analysis
First clip, Marner can skate further along the boards into the zone and change his angle of attack instead of peeling away, especially since he’s drawing 2 Bruins’ attention… even if Lybushkin’s pass could have been better. But of course that would invite physical contact from the Bruins’ player and that’s a no-no.
Second clip he gets his feet knocked under him and trips. Simple as that. A nothing burger.
Third clip is another nothing burger. He’s reaching with the stick because the Leafs’ backcheck was not there on that rush, something that arose from the LAST shift.
The PK shift is certainly him roaming but why isn’t Samsonov being criticized for going down early and neutering himself? Marner could have tied up the Bruin in front of the net though.
All in all, a 5/10 in clip selection that seemed more predatory than it did informative.
Blows my mind that there’s still people defending Marner. Absolutely pathetic Hockey player
gOOfy team. Bunch of princesses. Toronto needs to build a different culture
This EXACTLY WHY you pay people AFTER they have won something and not before.
How would any team want Marner after seeing him disappear year after year in the playoffs at that price tag?
Sonebody check on /u/Radu47 after this gem https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1cdd3q9/why_is_marner_treated_like_an_all_offense_guy/
One of the best bits I ever heard. Was 2 years ago when Marner got carjacked and the Queensway Cineplex was that he wouldn’t have been there if they had made it out of the first round
He’s not even a $7 million dollar player.
You bench him to send a message in the locker room. At this point Plank from Ed Ed and Eddy would be a better option than Marner. Hope he figures it out for game 5.
How can you justify a raise for this guy? Can’t even hit 100 pts.
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Love him getting all the hate. Guy is a fucking joke. Tell him he’s getting fourth line minutes. No power play next year unless he waived his nmc.
Marner got paid. That’s all he cares about. He doesn’t have to win.
#THANKSDUBAS
they should do one for willy too
was just as bad if not worse last night
He doesn’t deserve the money he’s earning and his salary has done a lot to hurt this roster. I’ve flip flopped on a ton of things but always always have been consistent on this view
Marners had over an Hour and 26 minutes of Ice Time this series
He has 7 shots.
https://preview.redd.it/nuzd1oydi7xc1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8de81fb4c43ba7a1fe70fb83e5eb163024b44444
This is Mitch Marner every single playoffs. He is super highly skilled and a fantastic playmaker but he has zero battle. When the games get tight he can’t fight through checks or make his own/find new space. Lots of soft players have great playoffs because they can either fight through a check (Nylander) or make their own space (Kane). Marner can’t do either. Marner excels when the games get silly, when there is lots of space. When games are low event and tight checking you get floppy Marner falling all over the place or forcing passes. And then you get the rare beast that is sulky Marner where the body language is poor and the otherwise excellent defensive game starts to go.
He was called out by Kelly Hrudy as well