He could be anythingā¦at a rookie contract counting 700k to the cap saving 10m.
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They are two different things
johnbado122
Saves us money trade Mitch for defence or goalkeeper
lsaran
I look at Cowan the same way I looked at Knies. We were fortunate to get him at the pick we got him at because soon after he proved to be worth a higher pick.
New_Acanthaceae3791
āHe could be someone whoās not a giant pussy in the playoffsā
breakyoudown
Can’t stand this take. The roster construction has failed 8 straight years. We need 16 wins and typically win 3. We’re not close, and paying a guy 11M to be afraid of contact is a big problem and we should’ve moved on from him last year. We already know what we have in this group and it can’t win so who cares
kingex11
Garbage take.
RTH1975
The issue isn’t that Marner is a bad player. The issue is that he’s a UFA at the end of the season, and is unlikely to fit into the current roster with an increase in pay. So, the question becomes “what can we get for him?” And this is completely disregarding the continued failure of the core pieces. Something has to change, and the UFA that is going to be priced out is the logical choice.
etobs13
Loser take, Even if Cowan is only 75% of Marner, we save 10M a year in cap space that we can use on goaltending and a top defenseman plus the assets we get in return for Marner
buddyboykoda
Honestly the mystery box could just be 10.9 million in savings and I would be a happy camper
Moe_Danglez
We are hoping Easton plays like Mitch in the regular season and plays like Knies in the postseason.
You’d hope he’s Mitch Marner that actually shows up in games 5, 6 and 7.
Nobody denies Marner is a great regular season player, or that he can pile on points early in a series of the Leafs have a big game.
The problem is clutch, of which he has none…
Matthews and Nylander just happen to be the locked up. Tavares and Marner are the ones on expiring deals. The team needs dramatic change, it’s as simple as that.
You already know what you’re getting with Marner and this group. It’s been run back too many times. Too many chances, too little success. This isn’t the Washington Capitals where they won many rounds along their journey.
You trade Marner, what’s the worst that could happen? You lose in the first round?
v1be
Hi Paul
Bhaw1
The bar for Easton Cowan is to be better than playoff Mitch Marner.
Radu47
Also him having roughly half the cumulative NHLe of Marner at this point
If anything he’ll probably be similar to Nrobs
They have eerily similar profiles:
– meh NHLe draft year
– excellent NHLe D+1
– not super talented but very nifty
– smaller skilled players
– not very truculent
Sammydaws97
Mitch would be a fan favorite if he was on Draisaitls contract.
Cowan comes in on an ELC so fans will love him till its time to pay!
Jmac24mats13
Cowan might have 45 points this season for the Leafs but might work harder and have more points than Mitch did last playoffs. Surround this team with better playoff performers as well like a Guentzel or Marchessault or both and you have something
Competitive-Strain-7
Yeah this kid is showing promise lets add some Leaf Nation pressure on him, cup in 4 years or bust.
schoolhouserock
Yarr Mateys! Sit back as I regale ye with the tale of Kyle Wellwood.
OneNutPhil
Easton Cowan being amazing is entirely separate from Mitch Marner being paid above his talent level and performing below it.
postmodern_lasagna
If Tavares is willing to extend at an AAV less than $4M, Iād be tempted to run it back. We have solid players on ELCs/cheap deals next year
ā¢ McMann (middle six F) ā¢ Knies (top 9 F) ā¢ Woll (tandem goalie) ā¢ Benoit (top 6 D) ā¢ Cowan (middle six F) ā¢ Holmberg (bottom six F)
Plus McCabe only making $2M is huge. The real window would start in 2025/2026. Thereās $18.5M to allocate to a tandem goalie, 2 top 4 defensemen and 1 top 6 forward. Bottom pair D/depth forwards are league min and donāt count against cap (they just swap someone else out thatās currently counting towards it). Iām still open to trading but it would have to be a slam dunk like Marner for Saros + Evangelista and Tomasino
Svalbard38
Theyāre completely different things. Iām excited for Cowan but donāt expect him to be a difference maker next year, and separately I think this cap allocation experiment has run its course and think we should put our money into two solid contributors in the 4-7 mil range rather than one guy at 11.
CallistosTitan
Are you conditioned to believe that every player is going to diva their way to a contract? I can see why.
kelticslob
Weāll take the box
Responsible-Arm3514
Iād take a 70pt winger at a much lower cap hit with a penchant for playoff scoring over Mitch. Heās great, the makeup of the team is not his fault, but the Leafs need to change the mix in order to have playoff success.
PaleHorseRider-94
have to remember eastons big run right now is still 10 points behind what marner had in his big jr season in the playoffs
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He could be anythingā¦at a rookie contract counting 700k to the cap saving 10m.
They are two different things
Saves us money trade Mitch for defence or goalkeeper
I look at Cowan the same way I looked at Knies. We were fortunate to get him at the pick we got him at because soon after he proved to be worth a higher pick.
āHe could be someone whoās not a giant pussy in the playoffsā
Can’t stand this take. The roster construction has failed 8 straight years. We need 16 wins and typically win 3. We’re not close, and paying a guy 11M to be afraid of contact is a big problem and we should’ve moved on from him last year. We already know what we have in this group and it can’t win so who cares
Garbage take.
The issue isn’t that Marner is a bad player. The issue is that he’s a UFA at the end of the season, and is unlikely to fit into the current roster with an increase in pay. So, the question becomes “what can we get for him?”
And this is completely disregarding the continued failure of the core pieces. Something has to change, and the UFA that is going to be priced out is the logical choice.
Loser take, Even if Cowan is only 75% of Marner, we save 10M a year in cap space that we can use on goaltending and a top defenseman plus the assets we get in return for Marner
Honestly the mystery box could just be 10.9 million in savings and I would be a happy camper
We are hoping Easton plays like Mitch in the regular season and plays like Knies in the postseason.
How many Mitch cucks do we have in this sub?
https://i.redd.it/2jndidm7yz0d1.gif
You’d hope he’s Mitch Marner that actually shows up in games 5, 6 and 7.
Nobody denies Marner is a great regular season player, or that he can pile on points early in a series of the Leafs have a big game.
The problem is clutch, of which he has none…
Matthews and Nylander just happen to be the locked up. Tavares and Marner are the ones on expiring deals. The team needs dramatic change, it’s as simple as that.
You already know what you’re getting with Marner and this group. It’s been run back too many times. Too many chances, too little success. This isn’t the Washington Capitals where they won many rounds along their journey.
You trade Marner, what’s the worst that could happen? You lose in the first round?
Hi Paul
The bar for Easton Cowan is to be better than playoff Mitch Marner.
Also him having roughly half the cumulative NHLe of Marner at this point
If anything he’ll probably be similar to Nrobs
They have eerily similar profiles:
– meh NHLe draft year
– excellent NHLe D+1
– not super talented but very nifty
– smaller skilled players
– not very truculent
Mitch would be a fan favorite if he was on Draisaitls contract.
Cowan comes in on an ELC so fans will love him till its time to pay!
Cowan might have 45 points this season for the Leafs but might work harder and have more points than Mitch did last playoffs. Surround this team with better playoff performers as well like a Guentzel or Marchessault or both and you have something
Yeah this kid is showing promise lets add some Leaf Nation pressure on him, cup in 4 years or bust.
Yarr Mateys! Sit back as I regale ye with the tale of Kyle Wellwood.
Easton Cowan being amazing is entirely separate from Mitch Marner being paid above his talent level and performing below it.
If Tavares is willing to extend at an AAV less than $4M, Iād be tempted to run it back. We have solid players on ELCs/cheap deals next year
ā¢ McMann (middle six F)
ā¢ Knies (top 9 F)
ā¢ Woll (tandem goalie)
ā¢ Benoit (top 6 D)
ā¢ Cowan (middle six F)
ā¢ Holmberg (bottom six F)
Plus McCabe only making $2M is huge. The real window would start in 2025/2026. Thereās $18.5M to allocate to a tandem goalie, 2 top 4 defensemen and 1 top 6 forward. Bottom pair D/depth forwards are league min and donāt count against cap (they just swap someone else out thatās currently counting towards it). Iām still open to trading but it would have to be a slam dunk like Marner for Saros + Evangelista and Tomasino
Theyāre completely different things. Iām excited for Cowan but donāt expect him to be a difference maker next year, and separately I think this cap allocation experiment has run its course and think we should put our money into two solid contributors in the 4-7 mil range rather than one guy at 11.
Are you conditioned to believe that every player is going to diva their way to a contract? I can see why.
Weāll take the box
Iād take a 70pt winger at a much lower cap hit with a penchant for playoff scoring over Mitch. Heās great, the makeup of the team is not his fault, but the Leafs need to change the mix in order to have playoff success.
have to remember eastons big run right now is still 10 points behind what marner had in his big jr season in the playoffs