Luke Fox on Marner’s future, says Unlikely to re-sign, Berube, Tavares staying, Domi’s chances of staying, Treliving’s off-season and more! I thought people would enjoy! Go Leafs Go!
Luke Fox on Marner’s future, says Unlikely to re-sign, Berube, Tavares staying, Domi’s chances of staying, Treliving’s off-season and more! I thought people would enjoy! Go Leafs Go!
Where’s this narrative coming from that we can always just dump him at the deadline?
I mean sure its obviously possible but why wouldn’t they trade him during a time when there’s more cap space available and more of an appetite to make a change? If you’re Marner, why would you waive your NMC in the middle of a playoff push to go join another team? If you’re the leafs, why would you keep him only to dump him before the playoffs? During the summer the leafs can still add other pieces through FA if we don’t take a contract back, we can’t add the same way if we trade Marner at the deadline.
Just doesn’t make sense at all
JFMoldau
He is ***so*** walking to free agency, and there isn’t a damn thing they can do about it. Marner has them by the balls. They have to play him.
Edit: I seriously cannot fathom how Tavares staying has even been a discussion.
Imagine your boss coming to you and saying:
*Hey man, so, you’re going to make the same amount of money, actually no, no you won’t, you’ll lose endorsement dollars, but hey, anyway, how about you take a one-year gig someplace else and help us out? You know, your young family will be okay, it is only a year. You know, do it for the team.*
Bro, if my boss said that shit to me, I might die of laughter.
AggravatingType9012
Luke Fox has great takes.
Radu47
Yeah it’s definitely past the point of no return, the Marner bridge burned at both ends now, quite the saga
The player formerly known as a leaf
Seems a thin trade market would be only reason he would even remain util September, do they get hasty though?
Devine97
Anyone have the cliff notes ?
tm_leafer
I agree that it’s certainly a failed experiment – build around the “Core Five”, all of whom are premier offensive players, and repeatedly struggle to score of all things in the playoffs. Obviously it’s not working.
Moving Marner, if that happens, isnt because he’s a bad player. He’s obviously a very elite player. But we simply cannot allocate ~$36-37M of our cap to Matthews, Marner, and Nylander long-term. We need that money to upgrade the blueline, upgrade goaltending, and upgrade the bottom 6. Matthews will score more in the playoffs if he’s supported by a high quality blueline that can take the puck away from the opposition and move it effectively up the ice.
Also, wing is the easiest position to fill and is arguably our greatest strength among U25 players – Knies is our top young NHLer, Cowan is our top prospect, and Grebenkin is a pretty legit prospect as well.
twofactorial
Four scenarios:
1. Marner’s camp refuses to cooperate. We basically run it back, and we get bounced early. Marner doesn’t get the 8 year contract and loses money on the next contract because teams will see him as someone that can’t perform in playoffs. The fans hate him forever.
2. Marner’s camp refuses to cooperate. We retaliate by sitting him or giving him a reduced role. Marner doesn’t get the 8 year contract and loses money on the next contract because he had a down year. The fans hate him forever.
3. Marner’s camp cooperates. We do a sign and trade. He gets the 8 years. Leafs fans thank him for his service, he gets a fresh start elsewhere. Doesn’t have to be “paid like matthews” because he will be the matthews for whatever franchise he lands.
4. Marner’s camp cooperates. We do a sign and trade. He gets the 8 years. He wins the cup.
3 & 4 sound wayyy better than 1 & 2 if I was Marner. So it only makes sense they cooperate
LostBeneathMySkin
So how’s this guy getting the opposite of what all the legit guys are saying? And what’s with people in this sub pumping this guys tires? Had him blocked on Twitter for a while can’t stand the constant clickbait and saying exactly the opposite of what ends up being true.
DontToewsM3Bro
Who the fuck is this guy
And why should i trust him as a source
But beside fuck Marner trade that overpaid bum and Tavares too
Gruz420
I’d rather resign Marner and let Tavares walk. Both have no movement clauses, and we may be stuck with both for the year. This fanbase is focusing on the wrong 11M player
TorturedFanClub
Canucks should trade for Marner. They couldnt generate any offense/had low shot totals and a pathetic pp in the playoffs…… oh wait.
10thousand34
I don’t have much to add except I have no idea why people listen to this guy, he’s a fuckin nobody
Atari_Writer
He could and might refuse to waive and bet on himself. He has a career year and puts up 115-120 points and actually produces in the playoffs next year. Then he gets paid by Toronto. If you don’t think Marner’s camp thinks that’s a possibility you’re nuts. Mitch will definitely believe that’s possible.
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“Unlikely to re-sign”
Music to my ears
Where’s this narrative coming from that we can always just dump him at the deadline?
I mean sure its obviously possible but why wouldn’t they trade him during a time when there’s more cap space available and more of an appetite to make a change? If you’re Marner, why would you waive your NMC in the middle of a playoff push to go join another team? If you’re the leafs, why would you keep him only to dump him before the playoffs? During the summer the leafs can still add other pieces through FA if we don’t take a contract back, we can’t add the same way if we trade Marner at the deadline.
Just doesn’t make sense at all
He is ***so*** walking to free agency, and there isn’t a damn thing they can do about it. Marner has them by the balls. They have to play him.
Edit: I seriously cannot fathom how Tavares staying has even been a discussion.
Imagine your boss coming to you and saying:
*Hey man, so, you’re going to make the same amount of money, actually no, no you won’t, you’ll lose endorsement dollars, but hey, anyway, how about you take a one-year gig someplace else and help us out? You know, your young family will be okay, it is only a year. You know, do it for the team.*
Bro, if my boss said that shit to me, I might die of laughter.
Luke Fox has great takes.
Yeah it’s definitely past the point of no return, the Marner bridge burned at both ends now, quite the saga
The player formerly known as a leaf
Seems a thin trade market would be only reason he would even remain util September, do they get hasty though?
Anyone have the cliff notes ?
I agree that it’s certainly a failed experiment – build around the “Core Five”, all of whom are premier offensive players, and repeatedly struggle to score of all things in the playoffs. Obviously it’s not working.
Moving Marner, if that happens, isnt because he’s a bad player. He’s obviously a very elite player. But we simply cannot allocate ~$36-37M of our cap to Matthews, Marner, and Nylander long-term. We need that money to upgrade the blueline, upgrade goaltending, and upgrade the bottom 6. Matthews will score more in the playoffs if he’s supported by a high quality blueline that can take the puck away from the opposition and move it effectively up the ice.
Also, wing is the easiest position to fill and is arguably our greatest strength among U25 players – Knies is our top young NHLer, Cowan is our top prospect, and Grebenkin is a pretty legit prospect as well.
Four scenarios:
1. Marner’s camp refuses to cooperate. We basically run it back, and we get bounced early. Marner doesn’t get the 8 year contract and loses money on the next contract because teams will see him as someone that can’t perform in playoffs. The fans hate him forever.
2. Marner’s camp refuses to cooperate. We retaliate by sitting him or giving him a reduced role. Marner doesn’t get the 8 year contract and loses money on the next contract because he had a down year. The fans hate him forever.
3. Marner’s camp cooperates. We do a sign and trade. He gets the 8 years. Leafs fans thank him for his service, he gets a fresh start elsewhere. Doesn’t have to be “paid like matthews” because he will be the matthews for whatever franchise he lands.
4. Marner’s camp cooperates. We do a sign and trade. He gets the 8 years. He wins the cup.
3 & 4 sound wayyy better than 1 & 2 if I was Marner. So it only makes sense they cooperate
So how’s this guy getting the opposite of what all the legit guys are saying? And what’s with people in this sub pumping this guys tires? Had him blocked on Twitter for a while can’t stand the constant clickbait and saying exactly the opposite of what ends up being true.
Who the fuck is this guy
And why should i trust him as a source
But beside fuck Marner trade that overpaid bum and Tavares too
I’d rather resign Marner and let Tavares walk. Both have no movement clauses, and we may be stuck with both for the year. This fanbase is focusing on the wrong 11M player
Canucks should trade for Marner. They couldnt generate any offense/had low shot totals and a pathetic pp in the playoffs…… oh wait.
I don’t have much to add except I have no idea why people listen to this guy, he’s a fuckin nobody
He could and might refuse to waive and bet on himself. He has a career year and puts up 115-120 points and actually produces in the playoffs next year. Then he gets paid by Toronto. If you don’t think Marner’s camp thinks that’s a possibility you’re nuts. Mitch will definitely believe that’s possible.