I think with what his draft positions have been, lottery luck or lack thereof heās done pretty damn good with what heās got. First draft pick he had was a grand slam. I think his draft picks are just starting to come into their own and really shine. The pro scouting has been a little below average. Florida and Dallas both have very good pro scouting teams. Jim Nill is a wizard of a GM, Iām sad the Wings didnāt get to keep him but he was ready to run a team.
Kenny Holland can't draft, and it is showing in Edmonton. I think this is Edmonton only year to have a chance to win it all, and then this team will start it's decline. I think Holland will be fired within 3 seasons. As for Yzerman, he does draft well, and what makes him special is his ability to acquire value in trades and his appeal in the free agent market. Red Wings will be in the playoffs next season.
Yzerman was great at trading in Tampa, turning Conacher and Downie into Bishop and Vasilevskiy, but his 1st round drafting (GMs have more influence in 1st round picks) was spotty there, while Al Murray did most of the heavy lifting with finding some gems later. Yzerman has been good in Detroit, cleaning up most of Holland's mess, but some of his UFA signings were overpays or straight up unnecessary (Chiarot, Copp, Holl), some though were very good (Gostisbehere, Lyon, Sprong, Kane). The 1st round drafting has been mostly good since he came in, but the later rounds look to be quite meh to weak with Draper doing the work there. He's a good GM, not a great one, at least right now.
To be fair to Yzerman, Holland left the biggest mess in the league for him to clean up.
Holland is the most overrated GM of this generation. He came in when the Wings had just won a Cup, had scouting wunderkind Hakan Andersson, had Ilitch Little Caesars money to spend/burn, & no salary cap until 2005. Once the salary cap came in, the Wings only got one Cup when they should have gotten more, and Holland made terrible move after terrible move, running the franchise into the ground (some blame on Ilitch for forcing Holland to continue the streak while Mr I was still alive).
Holland has McDavid and Draisaitl there and gave Nurse and Campbell far too much money. His 1st round drafting is mostly bad and his only great moves are Hyman and Ekholm.
Agree with Stoney, the Canadian Cup Drought is hilarious, I love it. Canadian team fans are mostly insufferable so seeing them and their stuck up media squirm is just great.
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YES I DO!!!
Leave Steve alone for another 2yrs
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Stoney seems like he works more now that he's a fill in š
Make the playoffs next year or get rid of him
Fire Rico
I think with what his draft positions have been, lottery luck or lack thereof heās done pretty damn good with what heās got. First draft pick he had was a grand slam. I think his draft picks are just starting to come into their own and really shine. The pro scouting has been a little below average. Florida and Dallas both have very good pro scouting teams. Jim Nill is a wizard of a GM, Iām sad the Wings didnāt get to keep him but he was ready to run a team.
I fill like you have to throw out his first 3 years but i would say he is good not special
Kenny Holland can't draft, and it is showing in Edmonton. I think this is Edmonton only year to have a chance to win it all, and then this team will start it's decline. I think Holland will be fired within 3 seasons. As for Yzerman, he does draft well, and what makes him special is his ability to acquire value in trades and his appeal in the free agent market. Red Wings will be in the playoffs next season.
Meh
The Canadians win it every year. All the teams are comprised of mostly Canadians players and coaches
These next few weeks will be vital. If he sits pat & doesnāt take a swing, it might be over.
Yzerman was great at trading in Tampa, turning Conacher and Downie into Bishop and Vasilevskiy, but his 1st round drafting (GMs have more influence in 1st round picks) was spotty there, while Al Murray did most of the heavy lifting with finding some gems later. Yzerman has been good in Detroit, cleaning up most of Holland's mess, but some of his UFA signings were overpays or straight up unnecessary (Chiarot, Copp, Holl), some though were very good (Gostisbehere, Lyon, Sprong, Kane). The 1st round drafting has been mostly good since he came in, but the later rounds look to be quite meh to weak with Draper doing the work there. He's a good GM, not a great one, at least right now.
To be fair to Yzerman, Holland left the biggest mess in the league for him to clean up.
They have improved every year. Next year is a must playoff team.
Holland is the most overrated GM of this generation. He came in when the Wings had just won a Cup, had scouting wunderkind Hakan Andersson, had Ilitch Little Caesars money to spend/burn, & no salary cap until 2005. Once the salary cap came in, the Wings only got one Cup when they should have gotten more, and Holland made terrible move after terrible move, running the franchise into the ground (some blame on Ilitch for forcing Holland to continue the streak while Mr I was still alive).
Holland has McDavid and Draisaitl there and gave Nurse and Campbell far too much money. His 1st round drafting is mostly bad and his only great moves are Hyman and Ekholm.
Agree with Stoney, the Canadian Cup Drought is hilarious, I love it. Canadian team fans are mostly insufferable so seeing them and their stuck up media squirm is just great.
Hockey rebuilds take time. Like 8-10 years. The cupboard was left empty with a ton of crappy contracts
Who has the best prospect pool while never having a top 3 pick and 1 point from being in playoffs?
no labels on audacy
SY is special….his selection of a coach is suspect.
As much as I believe in the product from 2-6.