Not exactly news, but shared because it’s the first I’ve seen it mentioned that the team is trying to avoid attaching a sweetener:
>Teams are asking the Canucks to attach an asset to Mikheyev in order to take on the contract, Seravalli reports. The Canucks are reportedly balking at that, though, noting that Mikheyev was coming off a torn ACL and should be better in 2024-25.
bendover456
Thank god lol. I really like Mikheyev the player but at 4.75mill he would need to be in the top-6 to be cost effective and he just hasn’t been good enough. At that price with the position the canucks are in he is a must trade imo
Ok_Worry7833
Incoming Patrick laine :)!
Key-Investment6888
Doubt any team will want him without any asset back. Alvin basically has to pray and take his own advice and hope he should be better for next season since that ACL injury.
Jaded-Ad-289
Gonna be hard to move him tbh.
carry-on_replacement
Waiting for another Corey Perry incident from the Blackhawks so we can take advantage
arashinoko
Move where? Abbotsford?
NerdPunch
Van really doesn’t much capital to start attaching sweeteners to Mikheyev, so I wonder if they look to trade a player with positive value as a means to move off of Mikheyev.
Like if a team is willing to give you a 2nd + for a player you value (Garland/Hoglander/Soucy), and those picks are enough to move Mikheyev…
Do you do it?
HanSolo5643
I like him but at 4.75 million he’s not giving the Canucks what they need. Especially considering all the time he got in the top six this year. As long as it’s not a premium assest, I would be more than okay trading him.
awayfromcanuck
It’s Seravalli, do we actually trust him or is he just giving an opinion? Like his opinion that Petey never saw any doctors?
It’s likely the Canucks are looking at their options with Mik but are we treating Seravalli as a reliable Canucks source?
JauntyGiraffe
In other news, obvious things are obvious
Physics_Puzzleheaded
Raty or Podz is probably a fair price to move him whether the team and fan base can stomach it is another question.
I could also see a scenario where we acquire a similar” bad “contract in exchange.
Pageau and Ristolainen are guys we’ve been linked to in the past and I could see a deal there making sense even if we still add minor pieces.
metrichustle
Can’t say I am surprised, but if Canucks were able to trade Pearson for DeSmith, then let the chef cook!
designisagoodidea
Sure! Here’s a conditional 7th rounder.
tiethy
Can’t wait to watch us deal him away with a draft pick attached only to watch him have a bounce back year.
I’d rather just roll the dice on keeping him and hoping he bounces back from his ACL tear.
mudflaps___
You would essentially have to trade him for another teams problem or bad value contract, so it depends ultimately on what you are taking back… I think he’s a prime candidate for a bounce back a year and a half out from knee surgery, so I would not be moving him with such little term left
Knight_On_Fire
He’s not all washed up as a player. Who is going to be surprised if he has a bounce-back season? Nobody. It’s a story line every year, players bouncing back after surgery and mental struggles. Just look at Boeser.
It’s very possible or even likely that his trade value will be way higher by the trade deadline than it is right now. Moving him is not urgent unless his cap must be moved but the cap crunch doesn’t get super bad until next summer. So managing assets for max value I hope is on the table.
He sucked offensively all season but they were still among the best teams in the league so I hope patience is on the table at least as an option.
Donkey_punch91
I really trust this management to do the right thing with him. They’re not just going to dump him for nothing. I don’t mind keeping him either and giving him a chance at redemption
Bonusrounds551
Move him with a 2nd rounder and be done with it. It’s time to make a top 9 that every team will fear.
Nomad_0024
I rather just roll the dice that he can’t possibly be any worse than pay an asset to get rid of him.
BatmanSpiderman
Maybe teams like san jose sharks would give him a chance
T2LV
Problem solved. Feed two birds with one scone.
Mikheyev and a 4th round pick to Carolina for rights to Guentzel. They get an asset with a player and we get a kick at the can for an elite winger for Petey.
CommanderTouchdown
Just scrolling through the comments here and there sure is a lot of “bounce back season” copium.
Mikheyev isn’t going to “bounce back”. He simply does not have top six playmaking abilities and has never been able to play up the lineup. He’s a one tool player – straight line speed. Very good defensively. But in the o-zone he’s a chucker, putting up low percentage shots from everywhere.
In Toronto, every time he played with their better players he tanked their numbers. He was at his best in a pure checking line with Engvall. In Vancouver, he submarined Petey’s game for months.
The Canucks overpaid to fix their PK and the injury neutralized his best asset.
He has two empty netters in 30 playoff games. He’s a cardio merchant.
Canucks should pay whatever the price is and move on. That cap $$$ could has to go to more goal scoring. This team needs more elite finishers to level up.
Adventurous_Ad_9557
good, they will probably have to retain to get rid of him
BurzyGuerrero
Moving half the team apparently lol
skottymac
I remember these headlines last season before we bought out OEL. I fear this is heading the same direction
berghie91
Hes not a bad hockey player by any means, but cursed finishing. He could be a 20 goal scorer. Should be for that kinda dough!
coltonjeffs
Moving mikeyev makes re-signing like 3 guys possible. We will probably only re-sign like 1 if we can’t move out Mikeyev
YouCanFucough
But how could this be
No-Luck-At-All
Mikheyev is going to have a bounce-back year because everyone that Allvin has moved or wanted to move have come back to have bounce-back years which are Garland, Boeser, Ekman Larsson and Dickenson. Get ready for a 20 goal season from Mikheyev!
Fozzy_Fresh
Report: Canucks doing off season things
After_Oblivion
Canucks – Selling distressed assets at a loss since 2012
I would let ride this year with Mikheyev. If he’s competent on 3rd line and PK it’s a decent value for 5 million. Not ideal, but we can’t keep liquidating assets in the name of the cap.
k_wiley_coyote
Well, yeah.
DaddyHeatley
Good.
Sleepy_tuesday
I live in Mikheyev’s building, he’s been renting a penthouse on the top floor. There was already an ad looking for new tenants during the playoffs but only recently did I notice a new tenant parking in his spot. I’m assuming management already made him aware of the fact that they were gonna trade him a while back. Pretty sure he’s back in Russia waiting on his fate.
Spookedchicken
I think this has the potential to be a bad move. Similar to the pay a 2nd round pick to move off Dickinson trade. Then we find out Dickinson had a hand issue, gets healthy again and does well in Chicago. We all know Mikheyev had knee surgery last year, couldn’t properly train all summer while he rehabbed and that it takes a while for NHL players to get back to 100% following an ACL injury.
If some rebuilding team wants to pay like a 6th or 7th to take a chance that Mik will bounce back that’s one thing. But if the going rate for getting rid of his contract with no salary retention is something like us paying a 2nd or 3rd or more then no way. I’d rather bet on him bouncing back this coming season now that he’s healthy and all signs point to him being a proud guy.
overscaled
I will just say it…as much as I hated his performance, especially on Game 7, he will bounce back next season.
veni_vidi_vici47
Obviously
If Joshua wants 3-4 mil, there’s no way they let him walk because they have to pay Mikheyev more than that
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Not exactly news, but shared because it’s the first I’ve seen it mentioned that the team is trying to avoid attaching a sweetener:
>Teams are asking the Canucks to attach an asset to Mikheyev in order to take on the contract, Seravalli reports. The Canucks are reportedly balking at that, though, noting that Mikheyev was coming off a torn ACL and should be better in 2024-25.
Thank god lol. I really like Mikheyev the player but at 4.75mill he would need to be in the top-6 to be cost effective and he just hasn’t been good enough. At that price with the position the canucks are in he is a must trade imo
Incoming Patrick laine :)!
Doubt any team will want him without any asset back. Alvin basically has to pray and take his own advice and hope he should be better for next season since that ACL injury.
Gonna be hard to move him tbh.
Waiting for another Corey Perry incident from the Blackhawks so we can take advantage
Move where? Abbotsford?
Van really doesn’t much capital to start attaching sweeteners to Mikheyev, so I wonder if they look to trade a player with positive value as a means to move off of Mikheyev.
Like if a team is willing to give you a 2nd + for a player you value (Garland/Hoglander/Soucy), and those picks are enough to move Mikheyev…
Do you do it?
I like him but at 4.75 million he’s not giving the Canucks what they need. Especially considering all the time he got in the top six this year. As long as it’s not a premium assest, I would be more than okay trading him.
It’s Seravalli, do we actually trust him or is he just giving an opinion? Like his opinion that Petey never saw any doctors?
It’s likely the Canucks are looking at their options with Mik but are we treating Seravalli as a reliable Canucks source?
In other news, obvious things are obvious
Raty or Podz is probably a fair price to move him whether the team and fan base can stomach it is another question.
I could also see a scenario where we acquire a similar” bad “contract in exchange.
Pageau and Ristolainen are guys we’ve been linked to in the past and I could see a deal there making sense even if we still add minor pieces.
Can’t say I am surprised, but if Canucks were able to trade Pearson for DeSmith, then let the chef cook!
Sure! Here’s a conditional 7th rounder.
Can’t wait to watch us deal him away with a draft pick attached only to watch him have a bounce back year.
I’d rather just roll the dice on keeping him and hoping he bounces back from his ACL tear.
You would essentially have to trade him for another teams problem or bad value contract, so it depends ultimately on what you are taking back… I think he’s a prime candidate for a bounce back a year and a half out from knee surgery, so I would not be moving him with such little term left
He’s not all washed up as a player. Who is going to be surprised if he has a bounce-back season? Nobody. It’s a story line every year, players bouncing back after surgery and mental struggles. Just look at Boeser.
It’s very possible or even likely that his trade value will be way higher by the trade deadline than it is right now. Moving him is not urgent unless his cap must be moved but the cap crunch doesn’t get super bad until next summer. So managing assets for max value I hope is on the table.
He sucked offensively all season but they were still among the best teams in the league so I hope patience is on the table at least as an option.
I really trust this management to do the right thing with him. They’re not just going to dump him for nothing. I don’t mind keeping him either and giving him a chance at redemption
Move him with a 2nd rounder and be done with it. It’s time to make a top 9 that every team will fear.
I rather just roll the dice that he can’t possibly be any worse than pay an asset to get rid of him.
Maybe teams like san jose sharks would give him a chance
Problem solved. Feed two birds with one scone.
Mikheyev and a 4th round pick to Carolina for rights to Guentzel.
They get an asset with a player and we get a kick at the can for an elite winger for Petey.
Just scrolling through the comments here and there sure is a lot of “bounce back season” copium.
Mikheyev isn’t going to “bounce back”. He simply does not have top six playmaking abilities and has never been able to play up the lineup. He’s a one tool player – straight line speed. Very good defensively. But in the o-zone he’s a chucker, putting up low percentage shots from everywhere.
In Toronto, every time he played with their better players he tanked their numbers. He was at his best in a pure checking line with Engvall. In Vancouver, he submarined Petey’s game for months.
The Canucks overpaid to fix their PK and the injury neutralized his best asset.
He has two empty netters in 30 playoff games. He’s a cardio merchant.
Canucks should pay whatever the price is and move on. That cap $$$ could has to go to more goal scoring. This team needs more elite finishers to level up.
good, they will probably have to retain to get rid of him
Moving half the team apparently lol
I remember these headlines last season before we bought out OEL. I fear this is heading the same direction
Hes not a bad hockey player by any means, but cursed finishing. He could be a 20 goal scorer. Should be for that kinda dough!
Moving mikeyev makes re-signing like 3 guys possible. We will probably only re-sign like 1 if we can’t move out Mikeyev
But how could this be
Mikheyev is going to have a bounce-back year because everyone that Allvin has moved or wanted to move have come back to have bounce-back years which are Garland, Boeser, Ekman Larsson and Dickenson. Get ready for a 20 goal season from Mikheyev!
Report: Canucks doing off season things
Canucks – Selling distressed assets at a loss since 2012
I would let ride this year with Mikheyev. If he’s competent on 3rd line and PK it’s a decent value for 5 million. Not ideal, but we can’t keep liquidating assets in the name of the cap.
Well, yeah.
Good.
I live in Mikheyev’s building, he’s been renting a penthouse on the top floor. There was already an ad looking for new tenants during the playoffs but only recently did I notice a new tenant parking in his spot. I’m assuming management already made him aware of the fact that they were gonna trade him a while back. Pretty sure he’s back in Russia waiting on his fate.
I think this has the potential to be a bad move. Similar to the pay a 2nd round pick to move off Dickinson trade. Then we find out Dickinson had a hand issue, gets healthy again and does well in Chicago. We all know Mikheyev had knee surgery last year, couldn’t properly train all summer while he rehabbed and that it takes a while for NHL players to get back to 100% following an ACL injury.
If some rebuilding team wants to pay like a 6th or 7th to take a chance that Mik will bounce back that’s one thing. But if the going rate for getting rid of his contract with no salary retention is something like us paying a 2nd or 3rd or more then no way. I’d rather bet on him bouncing back this coming season now that he’s healthy and all signs point to him being a proud guy.
I will just say it…as much as I hated his performance, especially on Game 7, he will bounce back next season.
Obviously
If Joshua wants 3-4 mil, there’s no way they let him walk because they have to pay Mikheyev more than that