This is why you don’t draft for need. You end up reaching for players instead of taking the most valuable player.
Just a nonsensical, unserious pick.
Dignan9691
Oof. Not good.
psumack
If you like the kid, and you can’t trade back to the mid-late teens and acquire more assets, you just take the kid at 13. You know he’s not getting to 32 .
dart278
I’m intrigued to know if there was anything more we could have gotten, since Luchanko could still have been there at 20-30. Could have really fleeced a team hungry for Buium when we traded back from 12. That’s really the argument to be salty about. The players could swing any direction, it’s so hard to tell, I don’t want to judge them at least a year from now.
EverybodyHits
Danny there are drafts in other years besides this one I’m pretty sure
Traumopod
Agree with Buium or Helenius. Do u think Torts overruled Danny and told him he wanted this kid ? Otherwise doesn’t make a lot of sense and now we’re gonna have to watch all the players we could have drafted burn us in the future.
Nervous-Local-1034
We have the dumbest fans in all of sports.
_JuicyPop
I think some folks get lost in the rankings list(s) while not realizing that these guys are so young that there isn’t as much certainty in what they’ll be compared to say, the NFL.
I can’t say where the player will ultimately go, but it could be the case where they think that he’s the best pick among a pool of several comparables.
Obviously you can say that he could have drawn back farther to get him later, but if other teams value him in the same manner then you can never be sure that he would still be there.
ThePalmIsle
This thinking NEVER beats BPA
awful
Sandrark86
Just when I think I’m in the Flyers continue to Flyera and pull me right back out. Poor Michkov on track to be the hockey Embiid. Good enough to drag a mediocre team to 2nd and 1st round exits.
Blursed_Technique
Well must be good because Briere is basically putting his reputation on this pick
rsn_lie
Our depth pool is short fucking everywhere. Take the BPA. At least take the best center available. For fuck’s sake.
upstart44
Zeev played over 25+ mins in the frozen four against this year’s #1 overall, last years #4 and Cutter and beat them all as a freshman.
Lets pass on that for a middle 6 bc we missed on obrien and Patrick.
Unreal.
flytimmo
I feel sorry for people who think this Flyers management is any better than it was under Fletcher
Micksar
I’ll believe this quote when I see the whole video of him speaking.
jdmoney85
Hmm trust Danny but that’s not good rationale. Don’t draft for need….rule #1
luckytaurus
I mean sure, but isn’t Helenius a centerman too? And wasn’t Helenius a consensus better pick?
Either way, the kid looks promising and it’s always a gamble anyway so let’s just hope for the best. Everybody was shocked at the Cutter Gauthier pick too a couple years ago and now everybody thinks he’s one of the best prospects about to enter the league so 🤷
crizzo13
We got Scott Laughton in a younger form. Eiserman had the most ceiling. Him being on the islanders is gonna haunt us down the road
Patient_Jicama_4217
So they forced it
thecodeofsilence
Has anyone thought that MAYBE the flyers reached out to Buium and he wasn’t crazy about the idea of playing in Philadelphia? He could very easily go back to U Denver then tell the flyers to shove it after he graduates.
KneelOnNails
Regarding Buium, they clearly saw a lot of the guy over the past several years while watching Brink’s and Rizzo’s development at UD. There must have been something that they didn’t like about him, and they weren’t the only team that passed on him. Should have traded back further to get Luchanko, but maybe there wasn’t a deal to be had.
Streetkillz13
Luchanko is a riskier pick than Helenius, but he also has the unteachable speed.
Able-Advertising-616
Problem is, the kid doesn’t score like a center. And, he’s 17. Could there be a lot of upside with his age? Sure. But a lot of 17 year olds plateau and never get better. A LOT. Especially if they’ve never been been big goal scorers. You cannot teach a nose for scoring, efficient scoring. Nearly all NHL great goal scorers always scored goals all the way back to being 12 or 14 year olds. This isn’t a kid like that. Big risk of bust potential.
nhlrox88
I know everyone is having a hard time with the pick and I get it, but here’s something to be excited about:
According to an OHL Coaches Poll, Jett was ranked 2nd Smartest Player, 2nd Hardest Worker, 2nd Best Skater and 4th Best Shootout Shooter (Barkey was 1st in that category)! Those are pretty good rankings.
Also of note: Barkey was voted the 2nd Best Playmaker as well as the aforementioned Best Shootout Shooter while Bonk was voted 3rd Best Offensive Defenseman.
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This is why you don’t draft for need. You end up reaching for players instead of taking the most valuable player.
Just a nonsensical, unserious pick.
Oof. Not good.
If you like the kid, and you can’t trade back to the mid-late teens and acquire more assets, you just take the kid at 13. You know he’s not getting to 32 .
I’m intrigued to know if there was anything more we could have gotten, since Luchanko could still have been there at 20-30. Could have really fleeced a team hungry for Buium when we traded back from 12. That’s really the argument to be salty about. The players could swing any direction, it’s so hard to tell, I don’t want to judge them at least a year from now.
Danny there are drafts in other years besides this one I’m pretty sure
Agree with Buium or Helenius. Do u think Torts overruled Danny and told him he wanted this kid ? Otherwise doesn’t make a lot of sense and now we’re gonna have to watch all the players we could have drafted burn us in the future.
We have the dumbest fans in all of sports.
I think some folks get lost in the rankings list(s) while not realizing that these guys are so young that there isn’t as much certainty in what they’ll be compared to say, the NFL.
I can’t say where the player will ultimately go, but it could be the case where they think that he’s the best pick among a pool of several comparables.
Obviously you can say that he could have drawn back farther to get him later, but if other teams value him in the same manner then you can never be sure that he would still be there.
This thinking NEVER beats BPA
awful
Just when I think I’m in the Flyers continue to Flyera and pull me right back out. Poor Michkov on track to be the hockey Embiid. Good enough to drag a mediocre team to 2nd and 1st round exits.
Well must be good because Briere is basically putting his reputation on this pick
Our depth pool is short fucking everywhere. Take the BPA. At least take the best center available. For fuck’s sake.
Zeev played over 25+ mins in the frozen four against this year’s #1 overall, last years #4 and Cutter and beat them all as a freshman.
Lets pass on that for a middle 6 bc we missed on obrien and Patrick.
Unreal.
I feel sorry for people who think this Flyers management is any better than it was under Fletcher
I’ll believe this quote when I see the whole video of him speaking.
Hmm trust Danny but that’s not good rationale. Don’t draft for need….rule #1
I mean sure, but isn’t Helenius a centerman too? And wasn’t Helenius a consensus better pick?
Either way, the kid looks promising and it’s always a gamble anyway so let’s just hope for the best. Everybody was shocked at the Cutter Gauthier pick too a couple years ago and now everybody thinks he’s one of the best prospects about to enter the league so 🤷
We got Scott Laughton in a younger form. Eiserman had the most ceiling. Him being on the islanders is gonna haunt us down the road
So they forced it
Has anyone thought that MAYBE the flyers reached out to Buium and he wasn’t crazy about the idea of playing in Philadelphia? He could very easily go back to U Denver then tell the flyers to shove it after he graduates.
Regarding Buium, they clearly saw a lot of the guy over the past several years while watching Brink’s and Rizzo’s development at UD. There must have been something that they didn’t like about him, and they weren’t the only team that passed on him. Should have traded back further to get Luchanko, but maybe there wasn’t a deal to be had.
Luchanko is a riskier pick than Helenius, but he also has the unteachable speed.
Problem is, the kid doesn’t score like a center. And, he’s 17. Could there be a lot of upside with his age? Sure. But a lot of 17 year olds plateau and never get better. A LOT. Especially if they’ve never been been big goal scorers. You cannot teach a nose for scoring, efficient scoring. Nearly all NHL great goal scorers always scored goals all the way back to being 12 or 14 year olds. This isn’t a kid like that. Big risk of bust potential.
I know everyone is having a hard time with the pick and I get it, but here’s something to be excited about:
According to an OHL Coaches Poll, Jett was ranked 2nd Smartest Player, 2nd Hardest Worker, 2nd Best Skater and 4th Best Shootout Shooter (Barkey was 1st in that category)! Those are pretty good rankings.
Here’s the [article](https://chl.ca/ohl/article/2023-24-ohl-coaches-poll-results/) for reference.
Also of note: Barkey was voted the 2nd Best Playmaker as well as the aforementioned Best Shootout Shooter while Bonk was voted 3rd Best Offensive Defenseman.