Twitter account is followed by Kevin Weekes so it might have some credibility, but don’t take it as gospel as usual
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BurgerFeazt
Pick one Winnipeg and add next year’s 1st
Roguemutantbrain
This trade would look bad in a year. Maybe worth it? Idk. Look at our cap. Someone would have to go if Ehlers signed long term
3rdEyeJoker
This guy misses on a ton of shit plus I don’t see adams giving away two of our best prospects for a likely rental unless it was a trade and sign
nefarious_dareus
Do it. With or without an extension imo.
TheFerricGenum
For one year of a guy who has never scored thirty in a season and averages about 50 points a year? No thanks.
andyouarenotme
For all the Skinner hate, Ehlers has 4 playoff goals in 37 games and seems to be hurt all the time.
I don’t really see this as a move that would make us decidedly better. If this is a rental, I’d rather have Skinner for another year and keep Kulich.
Rockhardwood
I think you guys are over rating our prospects honestly. Ostlund hasn’t been super impressive, probably my lowest out of our “top” prospects. Kulich didn’t really take a step forward last year, putting up similar points, higher pace tho, and having a worse playoffs. I’d probably do the two of them honestly. Ehlers is a guaranteed 60 point guy more or less. Our prospects, might be that in 3 years.
Accurate_Fee710
Better than 4 pieces. I’d lower the offer to Ostlund+Rosen.
pucks20
I know Kulich is young but if he’s going on year three of not making the big team I think that says more that his window on this team is not opening until he’s much further on the development curve. Benson beat him out for a spot last year and Heleinus is looking like he has potential to jump in line too. I really like Kulich but if he can get moved for a current top 6 player I’m all for it.
Edit: do agree it needs to be coupled with an extension. As a rental you can get better for much less.
Straight_Landscape37
Unless he’s extended or Iaffalo is thrown in there I’m not sure id be comfortable with that trade
jryvin327
Without an extension that’s a no
schwarma_mcpotato
Trade two top prospects for one year of a guy who probably will never re-sign here?
Inject that straight into my veins.
Radu47
Love seeing appreciation for Ehlers but of true this is a 2027 trade when they’re a good playoff team, not a trade for now
If now it’s just KA trying to save his job
Desperately no less
StartButtonPress
Helenius made this very reasonable. Paring two prospects into one player is the way to go, at this point.
Kulich was going to be hard pressed for any position in our top six and Helenius made 3C similarly tough.
I would really like this trade, if it happens. Ehlers is damned good.
idislikehate
Would I do it? In a heartbeat. Is it real? No. The article linked is just completely made up jibberish. It has a section about the “reaction” from fans and analysts as if fans and analysts have been discussing this exact deal in any way shape or form.
JMR027
It would better be a sign and trade
Novanator33
Look at the timeline of our sabres prospects, by the time we have to pay the group of rosen, kulich, savoie,johnson, ostlund and benson is when a guy like ehlers and a massive contract would really start to sour (like 5 years age 33)just like that skinner deal did… this just doesnt make sense, we need to let these guys develop, we will be a better team in the long run if we pay that young group for what they are going to do, instead of a guy like ehlers who will not contribute surplus value later into the contract.
I understand not all of our prospects will pan out but if we let them develop and then sign them when they are ready to contribute at a high level we will be better for it and we will have more leverage with RFA, worst case scenario is potentially an offer sheet which would be ammo for a team that at that point is looking to contend, those would be excellent pieces for rentals, trading for ehlers rn gets us closer to contention but hurts us in the long run, regardless of extension or not.
phatsystem
For me, this would be painful. Even with an extension, the issue is if we have to do 7 years that takes him to 36 (after playing out this year’s contract) at some high dollar amount. To be clear, he’s a very good player today, but has played only 75 games once in the last 6 years. Injury history plus age curve makes me not super bullish on this over the length of the contract.
He’d also have to have Buffalo as a team he wants to go to given he has a modified NTC. And I don’t know how we afford the extension (assume $7m plus or minus) with the other contracts coming up unless we also trade a roster player.
Material_Mall_5359
Did Cheveldayoff write this?
NurglesPestilentGaze
Really???? Our top prospects, thats a bet I really wouldnt take GMKA.
bustthelease
Kulich + Ostlund > Ehlers long term
downingrust12
No. Adams don’t do it. No GOD PLEASE NO
gollumaniac
“considering”
So, it’s BS that when it doesn’t hapen they can just brush off as they never said it would.
hybrid_earth
Yeah this account also posted this…
`The proposed trade would see the Sabres parting ways with Alex Tuch, who carries a cap hit of $4.75 million and a 2025 second-round draft pick. In return, the Jets would send Nikolaj Ehlers, with a cap hit of $6 million, and Alex Iafallo, with a cap hit of $4 million, to Buffalo.`Â
suppaman19
Ehlers is highly overrated by people online.
If I were Winnipeg, I’d jump at getting two top prospects for a middle tier guy who’s often injured, doesn’t produce when it matters, and is headed out the door.
If I were Buffalo, there’s no way in hell I’d make this trade (and then be trying to sign a middle tier, often injured soft player to another Skinner type contract).
EchidnaCandyShop
Way too much pearl clutching of prospects going on here.
As it stands, we have 6 real solid pipeline guys at F: Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Wahlberg, Ostlund and Helenius. If you remove Helenius (because dealing your 1 pick the summer after drafting him is extremely rare) that leaves you with 5 strong prospect chips to bargain with.
I’d wager consensus says 1/2 for most are Savoie/Kulich, and then a bit of a mix among the last 3 (don’t sleep on Wahlberg). None of these guys should be untouchable, and we still have a good cupboard of Fs if we move 2. Yeah losing Kulich or Savoie isn’t maybe what you want but Rosen/Ostlund doesn’t get it done
distancetomars
Please Kevin Adams, don’t get fleeced by Winnipeg
Substantial_Mud4694
If he extends , the. I would accept
serious_man_13
If this is somehow true, I would really push to swap out Kulich for Savoie.
The_Triagnaloid
So Winnipeg will win a cup with our prospects…..
Typical
sillygoosiee
Make it happen!!!
Bauter
You are talking about 2 guys that are 20 and both had great juniors play and kulich has been good in Rochester. I don’t see why you’d give 2 previous first round guys for a POSSIBLE rental. No thank you at all. Kulich is going to be very good along with Ostlund. I would actually be furious if this happened.
EamusAndy
IF he agrees to sign? Do it today. Of the top 4 F prospects, this would arguably be for #3/4. And i think with Konsta, Ostlund became more expendable.
If he DOEST agree to sign, im not interested
manlong11
I like Ehlers a lot but I wouldn’t give up both of those guys. I know we have a million prospects but I would want a better veteran back than him if we’re giving up 2+ prospects and inevitably a pick as well, I’d imagine.
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Twitter account is followed by Kevin Weekes so it might have some credibility, but don’t take it as gospel as usual
Cringe
Pick one Winnipeg and add next year’s 1st
This trade would look bad in a year. Maybe worth it? Idk. Look at our cap. Someone would have to go if Ehlers signed long term
This guy misses on a ton of shit plus I don’t see adams giving away two of our best prospects for a likely rental unless it was a trade and sign
Do it. With or without an extension imo.
For one year of a guy who has never scored thirty in a season and averages about 50 points a year? No thanks.
For all the Skinner hate, Ehlers has 4 playoff goals in 37 games and seems to be hurt all the time.
I don’t really see this as a move that would make us decidedly better. If this is a rental, I’d rather have Skinner for another year and keep Kulich.
I think you guys are over rating our prospects honestly. Ostlund hasn’t been super impressive, probably my lowest out of our “top” prospects. Kulich didn’t really take a step forward last year, putting up similar points, higher pace tho, and having a worse playoffs. I’d probably do the two of them honestly. Ehlers is a guaranteed 60 point guy more or less. Our prospects, might be that in 3 years.
Better than 4 pieces. I’d lower the offer to Ostlund+Rosen.
I know Kulich is young but if he’s going on year three of not making the big team I think that says more that his window on this team is not opening until he’s much further on the development curve. Benson beat him out for a spot last year and Heleinus is looking like he has potential to jump in line too. I really like Kulich but if he can get moved for a current top 6 player I’m all for it.
Edit: do agree it needs to be coupled with an extension. As a rental you can get better for much less.
Unless he’s extended or Iaffalo is thrown in there I’m not sure id be comfortable with that trade
Without an extension that’s a no
Trade two top prospects for one year of a guy who probably will never re-sign here?
Inject that straight into my veins.
Love seeing appreciation for Ehlers but of true this is a 2027 trade when they’re a good playoff team, not a trade for now
If now it’s just KA trying to save his job
Desperately no less
Helenius made this very reasonable. Paring two prospects into one player is the way to go, at this point.
Kulich was going to be hard pressed for any position in our top six and Helenius made 3C similarly tough.
I would really like this trade, if it happens. Ehlers is damned good.
Would I do it? In a heartbeat. Is it real? No. The article linked is just completely made up jibberish. It has a section about the “reaction” from fans and analysts as if fans and analysts have been discussing this exact deal in any way shape or form.
It would better be a sign and trade
Look at the timeline of our sabres prospects, by the time we have to pay the group of rosen, kulich, savoie,johnson, ostlund and benson is when a guy like ehlers and a massive contract would really start to sour (like 5 years age 33)just like that skinner deal did… this just doesnt make sense, we need to let these guys develop, we will be a better team in the long run if we pay that young group for what they are going to do, instead of a guy like ehlers who will not contribute surplus value later into the contract.
I understand not all of our prospects will pan out but if we let them develop and then sign them when they are ready to contribute at a high level we will be better for it and we will have more leverage with RFA, worst case scenario is potentially an offer sheet which would be ammo for a team that at that point is looking to contend, those would be excellent pieces for rentals, trading for ehlers rn gets us closer to contention but hurts us in the long run, regardless of extension or not.
For me, this would be painful. Even with an extension, the issue is if we have to do 7 years that takes him to 36 (after playing out this year’s contract) at some high dollar amount. To be clear, he’s a very good player today, but has played only 75 games once in the last 6 years. Injury history plus age curve makes me not super bullish on this over the length of the contract.
He’d also have to have Buffalo as a team he wants to go to given he has a modified NTC. And I don’t know how we afford the extension (assume $7m plus or minus) with the other contracts coming up unless we also trade a roster player.
Did Cheveldayoff write this?
Really???? Our top prospects, thats a bet I really wouldnt take GMKA.
Kulich + Ostlund > Ehlers long term
No. Adams don’t do it. No GOD PLEASE NO
“considering”
So, it’s BS that when it doesn’t hapen they can just brush off as they never said it would.
Yeah this account also posted this…
`The proposed trade would see the Sabres parting ways with Alex Tuch, who carries a cap hit of $4.75 million and a 2025 second-round draft pick. In return, the Jets would send Nikolaj Ehlers, with a cap hit of $6 million, and Alex Iafallo, with a cap hit of $4 million, to Buffalo.`Â
Ehlers is highly overrated by people online.
If I were Winnipeg, I’d jump at getting two top prospects for a middle tier guy who’s often injured, doesn’t produce when it matters, and is headed out the door.
If I were Buffalo, there’s no way in hell I’d make this trade (and then be trying to sign a middle tier, often injured soft player to another Skinner type contract).
Way too much pearl clutching of prospects going on here.
As it stands, we have 6 real solid pipeline guys at F:
Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Wahlberg, Ostlund and Helenius. If you remove Helenius (because dealing your 1 pick the summer after drafting him is extremely rare) that leaves you with 5 strong prospect chips to bargain with.
I’d wager consensus says 1/2 for most are Savoie/Kulich, and then a bit of a mix among the last 3 (don’t sleep on Wahlberg). None of these guys should be untouchable, and we still have a good cupboard of Fs if we move 2. Yeah losing Kulich or Savoie isn’t maybe what you want but Rosen/Ostlund doesn’t get it done
Please Kevin Adams, don’t get fleeced by Winnipeg
If he extends , the. I would accept
If this is somehow true, I would really push to swap out Kulich for Savoie.
So Winnipeg will win a cup with our prospects…..
Typical
Make it happen!!!
You are talking about 2 guys that are 20 and both had great juniors play and kulich has been good in Rochester. I don’t see why you’d give 2 previous first round guys for a POSSIBLE rental. No thank you at all. Kulich is going to be very good along with Ostlund. I would actually be furious if this happened.
IF he agrees to sign? Do it today. Of the top 4 F prospects, this would arguably be for #3/4. And i think with Konsta, Ostlund became more expendable.
If he DOEST agree to sign, im not interested
I like Ehlers a lot but I wouldn’t give up both of those guys. I know we have a million prospects but I would want a better veteran back than him if we’re giving up 2+ prospects and inevitably a pick as well, I’d imagine.