Is He Considered a Top-Six Forward for the Canadiens?
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In this episode of Habs Daily News, Coach discusses whether Joshua Roy is ready to be a top-six forward for the Canadiens. After a stellar season with the Laval Rocket, Roy got called up by the Canadiens and impressed by playing most of his time on the second line.
With a vacancy alongside Dach and Newhook, Roy has the potential to fill that spot effectively.
Coach delves into Roy’s chances of securing a top-six role, backed by analytical stats from his 23 games last season and a detailed scouting report.
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Hi Coach, I usually agree with you wholeheartedly, but Roy as a top 6 is in my opinion a bit of a stretch…I think he will be a solid 3rd line winger and 2nd power play unit. But I really hope you are right👍
Solid third? Maube
yes
Roy is a solid top 6.
Not even close on a contender.
Hi Coach, On his stats alone in the NHL all be it a small sample is definitely not a top 6 forward. Let's see if he has a break out year coming up. He was not given a lot of ice time last year. I guess we will see. I hope he does well. Now it's up to him to prove it.
Top 6 only by default or injuries.
When Hughes acquires a scoring forward, and he will, Roy gets knocked down the lineup and gets to play 3rd or 4th line minutes.
Can he kill penalties, provide forecheck energy or be returned to Laval for seasoning?
Note the biggest proportion of his 13 goals in Laval came early in the season then not much.
Playing 12 minutes per game and scoring 4 goals and nine points is hardly a top 6 sniper!
The new NHL is driven by speed and natural skating ability, attributes Roy is not blessed with.
This assessment is overly optimistic. Let's be honest here, on a cup contending team he is a third and maybe fourth line player. His skating is poor and he looked lost a lot last year.
While getting good minutes on the second line he hardly produced any offense. Even his production on the top line in Laval wasn't that great. In my opinion, he needs heavy minutes in Laval and let him develop to the player we all hope he can be. Remember he is very young still.
I think he isnt a top 6. A top 6 player is a guy who can play on line 2 and line 1. I dont think Roy can play on the first line. I see more as a middle 6er. But a guy who primarly starts on the 2nd line. His peak could be a 30 goal pace 50 point guy i think with solid all around play.
Im not trying to be rude, but your reading a report. I can literally visualize your eyes going side to side with every word lol.
His junior career showed he can be a top 6. Maybe he just needs a shot
Roy will play on the second trio with Dach and Newhook. It is written in the sky. When Demidov and Hage will join the team he will slip to the third line.
He’s 100% top-6 talent. Absolument!
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I enjoy your videos, regardless. All the best.
I say third line with Beck as center.
Can we trade Some smaller players already like RHP please
He reminds me of Drouin.
He needs to be more macho. More angry and have a big ego.
I see him in a third line with Beck and Newhook in a couple years
I agree with Roy in the top 6 this season, but only as a placeholder until Demidov arrives
If we're talking about right now at this instant then NO, Joshua Roy is not a top 6, not even on a bottom 8 team.
However, I think it would be the right decision to play him a full season with the Habs in 2024-25.
There's a chance he makes the roster since there's not much room left in Laval and Joshua Roy is first in line of the forwards.
He needs to grow with the core if he wants to be a part of it.
If they're keeping Harvey-Pinard, there's no reason not to keep Joshua Roy.
They're about the same level but Pinard is 25 and Roy 20.
Heineman is also on that same level but only one of Heineman or Roy can make the roster unless they trade a forward.
There's literally no room..
Slaf<Suz>Caufield
Roy<Dach>Gally
Armia<Newhook>Anderson
H-Pinard<Evans>Dvorak
Matheson<>Mailloux
Guhle<>Savard
Xhekaj<>Barron
scratched: Struble, Harris, Pezzetta
Meanwhile, Kent Hughes signed a bunch of players for 1 year and most of them are just plasters/patches.
I am not even sure there's going to be room for Beck in Laval.
There's no room for Mesar either, and I think they told him and so he requested a trade.
How much ice time will Farrell, Kidney and Xhekaj have with all the 26yo+ players on the team?
This is ridiculous, we don't have room for Mesar, Beck, Kapanen and Engstrom.
-Gignac (C), 26yo, AHL 1st liner, 1 year left on contract, Quebecois
-Dauphin (C), 29yo, AHL 1st liner, signed 1 year contract, Quebecois
-Barre-Boulet (C), 27yo, AHL 1st liner, 1 year left on contract, Quebecois
-Condotta (LW), 26yo, AHL 3rd liner, 1 year left on contract, Ontarian
-Arseneau (LW) 32yo, AHL 4th liner, signed 1 year contract, Quebecois (WHY???????)
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Xhekaj, (LW), 20yo, AHL 1st-2nd liner???, 3 years left on contract, Ontarian
Kidney (C), 21yo, AHL 2nd-3rd liner, 2 years left on contract, Nova Scotian
Miascum (LW), 21yo, AHL 3rd-4th liner? signed 2 years contract, Quebecois
Farrell (LW), 22yo, AHL 2nd-3rd liner, 1 year left on contract, American (MA)
Heineman (LW) 22yo, AHL 1st-2nd liner, 1 year left on contract, Swede
Beaucage, (RW), 22yo, AHL 3rd-4th liner??, signed 1 year contract, Quebecois
Simoneau (C), 23yo, AHL 2nd liner, 1 year left on contract, Quebecois
Perreault (RW), 22yo, AHL 3rd liner, 1 year left on contract, Quebecois
Davidson (C), 22yo, AHL 3rd liner, signed 2 years contract, Albertan
Tuch (F), 22yo, AHL 3rd-4th liner??, 2 years left on contract, American (NY)
That's 15 forwards. +2 goalies (17) leaving room for 8 defensemen
-Jacobs (RD), 28yo, AHL 1st-2nd D pair, signed 1 year contract, American (MI)
-Wotherspoon (LD), 31yo, AHL 1st-2nd D pair, signed 1 year contract, British Columbian
-Trudeau (LD), 21yo, AHL 2nd D pair, 1 year left on contract, Quebecois
-Hutson (LD), 20yo, AHL 1st D pair, 2 years left on contract, American (MI) >>>SHOULD BE IN THE NHL<<<
-Sevigny (LD), 21yo, AHL 2nd-3rd D pair, signed 1 year contract, Quebecois
-Reinbacher (RD), 19yo, AHL 1st D pair, 3 years left on contract, Austrian >>Will he even be there?<<
*Bisson (LD), 26yo, AHL 2nd-3rd D pair, signed for TB, Quebecois
*Galipeau (LD), 26yo, AHL 2nd-3rd D pair, signed in Europe, Quebecois
*Beaudin (LD), 24yo, AHL 2nd-3rd D pair, likely to stay in Czech, Quebecois
RELEASED UFA:
*Bourque (LW), 32yo, AHL 3rd-4th liner, UFA, Quebecois
*Maillet (C), 31yo, AHL 1st liner, UFA, Quebecois
*Andersson (C), 25yo, AHL 1st liner, signed 2 years in Swiss, Swede >>should have tried to keep him, I guess that's why they patching<<
*McKay (LW), 25yo, AHL 4th liner, status unknown, Manitobian
*Durandeau (LW), 25yo, AHL 2nd-3rd liner, status unknown, Quebecois
*Yaremko (LW), 26yo, AHL 2nd-3rd liner, signed in Europe, Albertian
*Keeper (RD), 28yo, AHL 3rd D pair, UFA, Manitobian
*Guindon (C), 20yo, AHL 4th liner?, now UFA, Ontarian >>no room<<
*Tourigny (RD), 22yo, AHL 3rd pair/ECHL, status unknown, Quebecois
*Nurmi (LD), 22yo, AHL 1st-2nd pair, now UFA/will possibly sign in the Sm-liiga, Finnish
Either they send one forward up like Barre-Boulet and one D down like Struble or Harris, or they're going to have to sign 2 more Ds for the AHL, maybe Pitlick and Engstrom.
With Reinbacher, Hutson, Jacobs, Wotherspoon, Trudeau and Sevigny, +15 forwards+2goalies, there's 2 spots left.
*Engstrom (LD), 20yo, AHL 1st D pair, 3 years left on contract, Swede
*Pitlick (LD), 23yo, AHL 2nd D pair, got to be signed before june 1 2025, American (FLA)
Or there's Tourigny and Nurmi. Tourigny is more on the ECHL level but Nurmi would fit well in Laval.
If we're talking about Joshua Roy's potential then yes, but top 6 is the HIGH end of his potential.
A moderate take would be middle 6. He's still young, we never know.
I think the Habs should have drafted Justin Poirier.
I think Roy is better than most people think. Any question about whether he plays on the 2nd or 3rd line hinges on who else the Habs have in the lineup. Slaf, Caufield, Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, Roy makes sense. But what happens when Ivan puts his skates on?
The "ROY!" cut ins are making me laugh so bad lol, but jokes aside, gotta be excited about the kid
Roy has similar nhl ppg as Caufield/Suzuki at their first season (and same age) with limited ice time, been dominant at every level, I see him top 6 next season and keeping improving. If we get another top 6 from trade or if we get demidov in 2025-2026 I see newhook going down to third but not Roy.
I don’t think Newhook or Roy will be too 6 once Demidov and a guy like Mcgroarty/ Necas is traded for! They will form a great 3rd line imo!