Paywalled content, but I’ll post the analysis and [image](https://imgur.com/a/TNS2mgw) for the wings, via Dom Luszczyszyn for the athletic
This Season: 24th
Last season: 23rd
A lot can change with where the Red Wings land depending on how much they sign Lucas Raymond and Moritz Seider for. On max-term deals anything below $8.5 million for Lucas Raymond and $7.8 million for Seider would be seen as wins according to the model.
Those deals would need to be major wins, though, to make up for a lot of the damage done to Detroit’s cap sheet via free agency. Neither J.T. Compher nor Andrew Copp are delivering to the standard they’re being paid for and things may be even worse on defense. Justin Holl has become a regular scratch and Ben Chiarot delivers closer to replacement-level results than the $4.8 million he’s earning. In net, Ville Husso might be the team’s third goalie and is the most expensive one at $4.8 million himself.
Term isn’t too big of a factor with those deals so the problems don’t compound enough to land the Red Wings lower, but the team doesn’t have a lot of good-value contracts to save them either. Both Patrick Kane and Erik Gustafsson should deliver surplus value, but that’s mostly it.
coltron57
Understandably so. Not many guys on this team would get a raise if they could wipe away their current deal and sign a new one. Quite a few players are overpaid by a little bit. Like the article says though, luckily most of these deals end after next year at the latest.
oceanic8675
Okie dokey
Redwings1023
These media pricks really need to quit lumping in Compher’s contract with Copp’s. Compher is actually an okay low end 2C.
Wakattack00
Fair imo. Has not been a strong point of the Stevie era.
HappyInstruction3678
I understand how we’ve messed up, but how is Toronto in the top 10?
HiveFiDesigns
Seems to be what everybody has stated, Yzerman said we’re about the same as last year. This team is being built to compete heavily in two years when Cossa is the starter. In two years most of those low value contracts will have expired and many of these prospects today will be filling those spots. And if not then the Yzerman-plan has failed. This season is just get into the playoffs, next year is to win a round d if two. Two years out they’re in the top ten or this rebuild has been a flop. Not really worried about the cap today as long as we have no issues resigning our own developed players.
Ok-Escape-2018
Who cares what the athletic thinks
Status_Studio_8130
The Athletic also put us 18th in goalie rankings but 32nd in the current and 1st in the future. I disagree with the Wings being last currently because imo Talbot is an upgrade over Husso just by staying healthy.
Edited for being a moron they were 18th NOT 16th
jfstompers
It’s fair, we have overpaid guys and too many players on defense and in net collecting paychecks for nothing.
10 Comments
Paywalled content, but I’ll post the analysis and [image](https://imgur.com/a/TNS2mgw) for the wings, via Dom Luszczyszyn for the athletic
This Season: 24th
Last season: 23rd
A lot can change with where the Red Wings land depending on how much they sign Lucas Raymond and Moritz Seider for. On max-term deals anything below $8.5 million for Lucas Raymond and $7.8 million for Seider would be seen as wins according to the
model.
Those deals would need to be major wins, though, to make up for a lot of the damage done to Detroit’s cap sheet via free agency. Neither J.T. Compher nor Andrew Copp are delivering to the standard they’re being paid for and things may be even worse on defense. Justin Holl has become a regular scratch and Ben Chiarot delivers closer to replacement-level results than the $4.8 million he’s earning. In net, Ville Husso might be the team’s third goalie and is the most expensive one at $4.8 million himself.
Term isn’t too big of a factor with those deals so the problems don’t compound enough to land the Red Wings lower, but the team doesn’t have a lot of good-value contracts to save them either. Both Patrick Kane and Erik Gustafsson should deliver surplus value, but that’s mostly it.
Understandably so. Not many guys on this team would get a raise if they could wipe away their current deal and sign a new one. Quite a few players are overpaid by a little bit. Like the article says though, luckily most of these deals end after next year at the latest.
Okie dokey
These media pricks really need to quit lumping in Compher’s contract with Copp’s. Compher is actually an okay low end 2C.
Fair imo. Has not been a strong point of the Stevie era.
I understand how we’ve messed up, but how is Toronto in the top 10?
Seems to be what everybody has stated, Yzerman said we’re about the same as last year. This team is being built to compete heavily in two years when Cossa is the starter. In two years most of those low value contracts will have expired and many of these prospects today will be filling those spots. And if not then the Yzerman-plan has failed. This season is just get into the playoffs, next year is to win a round d if two. Two years out they’re in the top ten or this rebuild has been a flop. Not really worried about the cap today as long as we have no issues resigning our own developed players.
Who cares what the athletic thinks
The Athletic also put us 18th in goalie rankings but 32nd in the current and 1st in the future. I disagree with the Wings being last currently because imo Talbot is an upgrade over Husso just by staying healthy.
Edited for being a moron they were 18th NOT 16th
It’s fair, we have overpaid guys and too many players on defense and in net collecting paychecks for nothing.