[Kloke] As always, read into this what you will: the Maple Leafs have mixed up their training camp groups and we seem to have some separation between the haves and the have nots:
[Kloke] As always, read into this what you will: the Maple Leafs have mixed up their training camp groups and we seem to have some separation between the haves and the have nots:
[Mirtle](https://x.com/mirtle/status/1839020864542748812): *24 players in the Leafs group. If there’s a surprise there, might be Rifai, although they need 8 D to balance the pairs. Interesting to see if Lorentz gets a contract here.*
dukes29
My money is on Group One making the team
korlo_brightwater
Reading this, all I can hear in my head is Kevin Malone saying “But what does a bean mean?!”
dfresa1
Some people doodle when they are bored, they usually draw houses or penises- funny how the houses are always colonial and the penises are always circumcised. But I can’t draw so I draw shapes and lists.
-Berube, probably.
JellyPast1522
Someone selected auto draft in their fantasy league.
Sirrebral99
Only mild surprise is Cowan being in group 2, he hasn’t had a good preseason so far (nothing so outstanding he’s a must have on the team). Him going back to junior is pretty likely unless he torches it for the rest of the games
Grebenkin in group 2 as well, but considering he had some bad positional play last game and cost the team a couple times, leaning towards a Marlies stint while he adjusts to life and the game in North America makes a lot of sense.
OkFortune
I wonder which group will play tomorrow, going to the game vs montreal
SCampo98
Maybe I’m out of the loop, where’s Fraser Minten?
DummyThlck
Tanev and Benoit being in the wrong spots is bugging me
d0k37
Reminds me when Robert California separated the office into 2 lists.
UnrealAppeal
Grebenkin should be in Group 1. Haven’t seen that kind of energy on the Leafs in awhile
Return2Maple
Why was this deleted earlier?
bigtuna3424
Who’s rifai?
Jaymesned
Steven Lorentz? Is he making this team? I must have missed something because I know nothing about him.
Timmins/Rifai are place-holding for Hakanpaa until he’s healthy. I expect that Timmins will make the team out of camp if Hakanpaa isn’t ready to go just to buy time on a chance to trade him instead of losing him to waivers. Rifai keeps the pairings at 8 D-Men so you don’t have uneven pairs for drills.
Pacioretty is pretty clearly getting an NHL deal. He doesn’t look broken and he was brought in to play. That leaves one lineup spot for Robertson/Holmberg/Lorentz. Lorentz plays a more typical 4th line role with PK duties but offence no offence. Robertson is the youngest and offers the most offensive upside. I just have a hard time not seeing Robertson make the team out of camp and I do think they are going to give him every opportunity to stay in the lineup.
2G – Stolarz, Woll
Obviously the two guys who are going to start the year in net. Will Matt Murray get through waivers at the end of camp? Hildeby is waiver exempt so is the easier callus in the event of injury.
Cowan has had a disappointing two games. Maybe he looks good in practice but he looks like a guy who is justified in going back to Juniors right now rather than a guy we can scream about not being able to go directly to the AHL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have an absurd OHL season again but with Patches getting a roster spot I just don’t see the value in losing one or both of Robertson and Holmberg to waivers just to keep him up only to find out in 4-5 games that he’s clearly not NHL ready.
herbtarleksblazer
TIL Kyle Clifford is still on the roster.
Emotional-Jicama-365
Not really a surprise though
sadleafsfan8834
Where was TV voit for this camp?
insubordin8nchurlish
glad to see that the Leafs’ printers work as well as mine
Mr_bean007
Honestly just surprised to still see Clifford on there
Franchise91
I was at the game last night and thought Myers stood out the most amongst the D group. Thought he would have had a good shot.
Mattinen on the other hand should be playing in a Beer league
miffy495
I’ve really like Grebenkin so far, but he’s not quite ready for the show. A little surprised to see Alex Nylander on the B side, but it’s the contract he took. I hope he gets a good look at some point during the season.
Opening_Argument_927
I wanna see more of Hildeby and Grebenkin. But the groups make sense for sure.
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[Source](https://x.com/joshuakloke/status/1838939687110496263)
[Mirtle](https://x.com/mirtle/status/1839020864542748812): *24 players in the Leafs group. If there’s a surprise there, might be Rifai, although they need 8 D to balance the pairs. Interesting to see if Lorentz gets a contract here.*
My money is on Group One making the team
Reading this, all I can hear in my head is Kevin Malone saying “But what does a bean mean?!”
Some people doodle when they are bored, they usually draw houses or penises- funny how the houses are always colonial and the penises are always circumcised. But I can’t draw so I draw shapes and lists.
-Berube, probably.
Someone selected auto draft in their fantasy league.
Only mild surprise is Cowan being in group 2, he hasn’t had a good preseason so far (nothing so outstanding he’s a must have on the team). Him going back to junior is pretty likely unless he torches it for the rest of the games
Grebenkin in group 2 as well, but considering he had some bad positional play last game and cost the team a couple times, leaning towards a Marlies stint while he adjusts to life and the game in North America makes a lot of sense.
I wonder which group will play tomorrow, going to the game vs montreal
Maybe I’m out of the loop, where’s Fraser Minten?
Tanev and Benoit being in the wrong spots is bugging me
Reminds me when Robert California separated the office into 2 lists.
Grebenkin should be in Group 1. Haven’t seen that kind of energy on the Leafs in awhile
Why was this deleted earlier?
Who’s rifai?
Steven Lorentz? Is he making this team? I must have missed something because I know nothing about him.
Seems pretty straight forward:
8D – OEL, Rielly, LIljegren, McCabe, Benoit, Tanev, Timmins, Rifai
Timmins/Rifai are place-holding for Hakanpaa until he’s healthy. I expect that Timmins will make the team out of camp if Hakanpaa isn’t ready to go just to buy time on a chance to trade him instead of losing him to waivers. Rifai keeps the pairings at 8 D-Men so you don’t have uneven pairs for drills.
14F – Tavares, Nylander, Reaves, McMann, Kampf, Matthews, Knies, Jarnkrok, Marner, Domi, Robertson, Holmberg, Pacioretty, Lorentz
Pacioretty is pretty clearly getting an NHL deal. He doesn’t look broken and he was brought in to play. That leaves one lineup spot for Robertson/Holmberg/Lorentz. Lorentz plays a more typical 4th line role with PK duties but offence no offence. Robertson is the youngest and offers the most offensive upside. I just have a hard time not seeing Robertson make the team out of camp and I do think they are going to give him every opportunity to stay in the lineup.
2G – Stolarz, Woll
Obviously the two guys who are going to start the year in net. Will Matt Murray get through waivers at the end of camp? Hildeby is waiver exempt so is the easier callus in the event of injury.
Cowan has had a disappointing two games. Maybe he looks good in practice but he looks like a guy who is justified in going back to Juniors right now rather than a guy we can scream about not being able to go directly to the AHL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have an absurd OHL season again but with Patches getting a roster spot I just don’t see the value in losing one or both of Robertson and Holmberg to waivers just to keep him up only to find out in 4-5 games that he’s clearly not NHL ready.
TIL Kyle Clifford is still on the roster.
Not really a surprise though
Where was TV voit for this camp?
glad to see that the Leafs’ printers work as well as mine
Honestly just surprised to still see Clifford on there
I was at the game last night and thought Myers stood out the most amongst the D group. Thought he would have had a good shot.
Mattinen on the other hand should be playing in a Beer league
I’ve really like Grebenkin so far, but he’s not quite ready for the show. A little surprised to see Alex Nylander on the B side, but it’s the contract he took. I hope he gets a good look at some point during the season.
I wanna see more of Hildeby and Grebenkin. But the groups make sense for sure.