Never seen Donnie so frustrated with a single player.
TimTebowMLB
Don’t look now but OEL has 3x as many points as Pettersson …… and he’s going to cost us $4.77m against the cap next season 😭
pusch85
Petey needs to forget about everything and just go have fun out there.
Primezipper
Donnie writing him off, calling the contract a mistake, claiming he’s injured…after 3 games. I am frustrated as the next person, but this is a laughable take imo.
Alextryingforgrate
Dude is in his head. Needs to jump on a scooter and go for a rip to clear his mind and move on with his day. He also always reminds me of a new born faun when hes on skates right now becaue hes lacking confidence. I dont know what it is he just seems to shy and scared to move and do things.
Muntberg
I get the urgency but I’m not really that worried in the long term. Most players go through growing pains trying to hit that true superstar status and I have faith he’ll figure things out eventually.
VancityRenaults
I really thought that he’ll be mentally reset and ready for the new season but it seems Petey has carried his self-doubt over and it’s so tough to watch him go through it. At this point he desperately needs a goal, even an empty net one, just to get something going in him.
hobbesdidit
Just doesn’t look any different from last season. Was hoping he’d come in and you would notice his skating was better, or that he was really strong on his feet. But it just feels like he didn’t improve any aspect of his game over the summer.
CanadaKC
He doesn’t smile a whole lot…the pressure obviously weighs on him and he doesn’t respond well to being under the microscope. He seems introverted to the point of being catatonic at times. I worry he gets down very quickly with all this and it supplants his god given talent.
Shimmj
Trade him 🗑️
BodybuilderSalt9807
He just needs to get laid real good.
carry-on_replacement
If it’s a confidence thing, it might be a great time for him to see a sports psychiatrist. How that’s not mandatory for all players is beyond me, but for Petey, he can’t just wallow in self doubt and not try something to get back on his feet. Didn’t Mackinnon go to one and then get a huge jump in his production?
AppealToReason16
Didn’t he say before camp that his knee wasn’t healthy yet and he had to train around it this summer? And isn’t this a similar knee injury to Kawhi Leonard and Joel Embiid’s? If the people making those comparisons are accurate, this could be a year+ long thing and even a career altering injury.
Illustrious_Camp_673
Perhaps EP40 is a PPG player and not a 100-120+ points player. And yes I know people want him to be a HOF player, me too. But perhaps thats above his skill level.
Shermander
This was the ill fated prophecy u/groodles spoke about.
JK buddy love ya. I do recall a thread some months back speculating on his wrist injury and how he started wrapping his injured wrist in 2021/2022. I also recall folks mentioning he possibly had “extended COVID” via folks judging the raspiness in his voice.
I do believe Mr. Jonathan Toews sat the season out last year due to extended COVID. But Petey literally just stopped being Petey around the All Star Break last season.
DrZoidburger89
This sub always going with the nuclear option. Remember all the “give him a blank cheque” comments last year? The whole team is struggling, injuries are a bitch. The team will be fine by mid season.
CarbonNaded
What the fuck did he think was going to happen when he sat out 3 years ago for a bag and then pulled some shit this go around to ultimately sign a huge bag with like top 5/10 player in the world expectations. Right now he’s the one laughing at us! Forget the skill. Forget the money. Forget everything. This guys character to me Is the problem. He’s always been a dink to the media and what not but I don’t believe he cares enough. He’s getting paid to be like Crosby, MacKinnon etc who want to win so bad. I don’t see it in him. Miller is clearly hungrier! Like he can be a cunt to the media and even to the fans but that guy HATES losing and we all know it! Petey is soft! Anyone saying otherwise clearly hasn’t watched him over the last 6 years
Send_me_beer1
I wonder if maybe his knee tendonitis is still bothering him
Cultural_Yak_746
I think it’s a systematic thing. From the games I watched last season and the first three games this season they seem to really be favouring getting pucks to the middle of the net for tap ins or redirects and boeser being the middle guy with miller being such a good passer and so smart and with a top 5 defence it’s working. But with that being said I think we became a lot less shoot-y. Petterson has an incredible shot and not much physical upside so I really think he’s struggling with these setups. I think there’s pros and cons and the current style of play is good but we need to work around petterson he is arguably our second or third biggest star. I’d like to see him on a line with garland and Hollander two smaller guys so maybe it might not work but they grind and are scrappy and good playmakers. Get petterson the puck and let him shoot. Then if you want go with the different style of hockey where we get miller and boeser for redirects.
Maybe I’m wrong I’m high and not very smart.
NerdPunch
EP40 needs to carry his line, but his one line-mate Sprong has been a healthy scratch and the other line-mate DeBrusk has been pretty underwhelming this far. Millers lines been underwhelming as well.
I’d like to see Toch’ give JDB/EP40/Garland a look. Garland has easily been Vancouvers best forward so far, so see if he can wake up EP40/JDB. Get Hoglander in there for Heinen as well.
– Hoglander Miller Boeser – DeBrusk EP40 Garland
redlights81
Either he is still injured, it’s a mental issue or it’s a Tochett issue. Tochett could very well be wanting him to be focusing on defense, almost too much… We all saw what he did with Kuzmenko. Traded a 30 goal scorer because he was a defensive liability. Turns out the Canucks needed more offense last postseason. Not rocket science.
Provos88
I have to admit: As big of a Pettersson defender as I am, seeing other teams’ stars looking like stars and changing the game, even if they’re not scoring, and seeing Pettersson look like a low end 2C at best, is rough. I am really pulling for him. If there’s nothing physically wrong, get him therapy ala MacKinnon. You have to.
One_Tourist204
I don’t think he wants to lose. He’s just not a top player, and now we are stuck with his contract. I hope the cap goes way up so this contract doesn’t look so bad!
Ivan_DemiGod
11.6m depth forward
biomactum
He’s injured. He has talked about how his knee is an issue. That’s it. It’s not that he’s mentally not well, he’s hurt and he needs medical assistance instead of being told to “practice it away.”
deeho88
I wonder if it’s all the structure that’s messing with his creative flow. Like what if the coaching staff let him on a long ass leash and said just so your thing. Give him debrusk and a very defensive oriented winger like pius to be the F3. He just needs to hustle back when it’s going back our way
Newaccount4464
I just don’t get why we couldn’t treat him like a soccer player and give him 2 year deal in perpetuity. We were fine. I feel like all that money tucked him up
Pistol-Pete7
I’m not a fan of Petey but holy shit some of you guys are trashing him hard.
eexxiitt
The team is missing enthusiasm, playfulness, and joy. We’ve replaced that and embraced the grind instead, where it’s all about results. We need to find a better balance.
SchizoCosine
Ever since I got his name and signature stitched on a hat he has been hot garbage water. It’s my fault guys, direct your hatred towards me.
Saaaintniiiick
He just needs a goal so bad. A great goal, a game winning goal, something that says fuck you to all of us doubting him. We don’t need his confidence inching back up we need it to skyrocket
ln0Sc0p3dJFK
I drafted him in fantasy – my bad guys
surmatt
I watched a clip on YouTube of his rookie season. Wow. I had forgotten how he bused to play.
1. Skated hard into attacking players causing turnovers and odd man rushes 2. Ready for a one-timer on his off-foot. 3. Holding the puck far from his body then pulling it in for a snap shot from a deceiving angle 4. Flew up the wing and backed defenders off giving lots of time and opening up his linemates for easy passes 5. Slap. Shot.
My feeling is that the injury is still lingering, he’s learning to play a system instead of doing what’s natural to him and he’s not confident in it yet.
patientnumberfive
Just so we’re all on the same page, petey has a better career PPG than Jack Eichel, is paid marginally more, has lots of time left in his career and contract to succeed and has never had a full season less than 65 points.
adamneddeadbitch
Last night I noticed every single time he made a slightly good play and it didn’t result in a goal he looked exasperated.
swepttheleg
I actually do think he’s hurt
flamingdragonwizard
If by the 20 game mark petey doesn’t have 15-20 pts then we can talk. He’s just a 2 or 3 pt game from being back to ppg.
monkey314
We critique him and he does suck, then we were right. He makes us eat our words, then we got a superstar.
^its^a^win-win…
literaphile
Fuckin’ A Donnie! Tell it like it is.
Complex-Ad-5907
I think if he’s still ass after 10-20 games then something needs to be done. A health bomb or a line demotion or something. But let’s face it. He’s got the shot and hands that at some point will wake up again and we will love him. As of right now garland is our best forward. Night in and night out you know what you’re getting from garland. A greasy lil power forward that will play his heart out. If petey could stay on his feet or skate better yada yada. Stop, petey is who petey is. He will almost always be the guy that skates like Bambi and falls down. But we didn’t pay him 11 sheets to skate. We paid him 11 sheets to put the puck in the back of the net and help his team win and put up points. Till he starts doing that then his contract is gonna be bad. But let’s not kid ourselves, the whole team hasn’t done shit the first few games. Let them adjust and wake up and reevaluate this at game 10/20/30/40/50/60/70/80. Take it ten games at a time.
Obvious-Property-236
He just looks like a man who over thinks every thing he does: skating, passing, and shooting
NoPomegranate1678
So if Petey himself is saying he had knee tendinitis and it impacted his play, I have to believe him.
Evidently, coaching and management didn’t quite believe it was so severe. Tocchett had even been saying in the media he had to “move his feet” more. If he thought Petey was legitimately injured, why would you say that? And he played Game 82 where others didn’t, so kinda seemed fine?
My guess is that it *is* a legitimate ailment that is making him adjust his play, but at the same time, the team has clearly seen something about Petey that sows doubt. Is he a boy who cried wolf? Is it like, “Oh yeah Petey says he’s injured..”
IDK, doesn’t seem like an unlikeable guy at all. He’s actually super kind on the ice and looks after players who get hurt. So is his mind elsewhere?
Because then again, he has terrible body language. Even if he was injured, he wouldn’t need to have body language like that. (In fairness, it hasn’t presented too much this season yet). Good body language would be fighting through whatever it is looking determined.
I do think he was aight last game though. Better than Miller was. Could have got a point or two if he were connecting. He just hasn’t dominated for a shift the way we used to see in half a year.
Far-Scallion7689
Canucks made a mistake signing the contract.
Donkey_punch91
Donny’s right. The guy is just floating around and we’re blaming structure? He needs to drive the play, not wait for someone to set him up for a tap in. 11.6 million should be for someone that creates chances on his own. It’s been since the day he signed his contract. He needs to figure it out or it’s just going to bring this team down.
Captain_JT_Miller
If Pettersson is still dealing with his knee issue, shut him down now. Do surgery or whatever it takes. WE NEED HIM TO WIN.
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Never seen Donnie so frustrated with a single player.
Don’t look now but OEL has 3x as many points as Pettersson …… and he’s going to cost us $4.77m against the cap next season 😭
Petey needs to forget about everything and just go have fun out there.
Donnie writing him off, calling the contract a mistake, claiming he’s injured…after 3 games. I am frustrated as the next person, but this is a laughable take imo.
Dude is in his head. Needs to jump on a scooter and go for a rip to clear his mind and move on with his day. He also always reminds me of a new born faun when hes on skates right now becaue hes lacking confidence. I dont know what it is he just seems to shy and scared to move and do things.
I get the urgency but I’m not really that worried in the long term. Most players go through growing pains trying to hit that true superstar status and I have faith he’ll figure things out eventually.
I really thought that he’ll be mentally reset and ready for the new season but it seems Petey has carried his self-doubt over and it’s so tough to watch him go through it. At this point he desperately needs a goal, even an empty net one, just to get something going in him.
Just doesn’t look any different from last season. Was hoping he’d come in and you would notice his skating was better, or that he was really strong on his feet. But it just feels like he didn’t improve any aspect of his game over the summer.
He doesn’t smile a whole lot…the pressure obviously weighs on him and he doesn’t respond well to being under the microscope. He seems introverted to the point of being catatonic at times.
I worry he gets down very quickly with all this and it supplants his god given talent.
Trade him 🗑️
He just needs to get laid real good.
If it’s a confidence thing, it might be a great time for him to see a sports psychiatrist. How that’s not mandatory for all players is beyond me, but for Petey, he can’t just wallow in self doubt and not try something to get back on his feet. Didn’t Mackinnon go to one and then get a huge jump in his production?
Didn’t he say before camp that his knee wasn’t healthy yet and he had to train around it this summer? And isn’t this a similar knee injury to Kawhi Leonard and Joel Embiid’s? If the people making those comparisons are accurate, this could be a year+ long thing and even a career altering injury.
Perhaps EP40 is a PPG player and not a 100-120+ points player. And yes I know people want him to be a HOF player, me too. But perhaps thats above his skill level.
This was the ill fated prophecy u/groodles spoke about.
JK buddy love ya. I do recall a thread some months back speculating on his wrist injury and how he started wrapping his injured wrist in 2021/2022. I also recall folks mentioning he possibly had “extended COVID” via folks judging the raspiness in his voice.
I do believe Mr. Jonathan Toews sat the season out last year due to extended COVID. But Petey literally just stopped being Petey around the All Star Break last season.
This sub always going with the nuclear option.
Remember all the “give him a blank cheque” comments last year? The whole team is struggling, injuries are a bitch. The team will be fine by mid season.
What the fuck did he think was going to happen when he sat out 3 years ago for a bag and then pulled some shit this go around to ultimately sign a huge bag with like top 5/10 player in the world expectations. Right now he’s the one laughing at us! Forget the skill. Forget the money. Forget everything. This guys character to me
Is the problem. He’s always been a dink to the media and what not but I don’t believe he cares enough. He’s getting paid to be like Crosby, MacKinnon etc who want to win so bad. I don’t see it in him. Miller is clearly hungrier! Like he can be a cunt to the media and even to the fans but that guy HATES losing and we all know it! Petey is soft! Anyone saying otherwise clearly hasn’t watched him over the last 6 years
I wonder if maybe his knee tendonitis is still bothering him
I think it’s a systematic thing. From the games I watched last season and the first three games this season they seem to really be favouring getting pucks to the middle of the net for tap ins or redirects and boeser being the middle guy with miller being such a good passer and so smart and with a top 5 defence it’s working. But with that being said I think we became a lot less shoot-y. Petterson has an incredible shot and not much physical upside so I really think he’s struggling with these setups. I think there’s pros and cons and the current style of play is good but we need to work around petterson he is arguably our second or third biggest star. I’d like to see him on a line with garland and Hollander two smaller guys so maybe it might not work but they grind and are scrappy and good playmakers. Get petterson the puck and let him shoot. Then if you want go with the different style of hockey where we get miller and boeser for redirects.
Maybe I’m wrong I’m high and not very smart.
EP40 needs to carry his line, but his one line-mate Sprong has been a healthy scratch and the other line-mate DeBrusk has been pretty underwhelming this far. Millers lines been underwhelming as well.
I’d like to see Toch’ give JDB/EP40/Garland a look. Garland has easily been Vancouvers best forward so far, so see if he can wake up EP40/JDB. Get Hoglander in there for Heinen as well.
– Hoglander Miller Boeser
– DeBrusk EP40 Garland
Either he is still injured, it’s a mental issue or it’s a Tochett issue. Tochett could very well be wanting him to be focusing on defense, almost too much… We all saw what he did with Kuzmenko. Traded a 30 goal scorer because he was a defensive liability. Turns out the Canucks needed more offense last postseason. Not rocket science.
I have to admit: As big of a Pettersson defender as I am, seeing other teams’ stars looking like stars and changing the game, even if they’re not scoring, and seeing Pettersson look like a low end 2C at best, is rough. I am really pulling for him. If there’s nothing physically wrong, get him therapy ala MacKinnon. You have to.
I don’t think he wants to lose. He’s just not a top player, and now we are stuck with his contract. I hope the cap goes way up so this contract doesn’t look so bad!
11.6m depth forward
He’s injured. He has talked about how his knee is an issue. That’s it. It’s not that he’s mentally not well, he’s hurt and he needs medical assistance instead of being told to “practice it away.”
I wonder if it’s all the structure that’s messing with his creative flow. Like what if the coaching staff let him on a long ass leash and said just so your thing. Give him debrusk and a very defensive oriented winger like pius to be the F3. He just needs to hustle back when it’s going back our way
I just don’t get why we couldn’t treat him like a soccer player and give him 2 year deal in perpetuity. We were fine. I feel like all that money tucked him up
I’m not a fan of Petey but holy shit some of you guys are trashing him hard.
The team is missing enthusiasm, playfulness, and joy. We’ve replaced that and embraced the grind instead, where it’s all about results. We need to find a better balance.
Ever since I got his name and signature stitched on a hat he has been hot garbage water. It’s my fault guys, direct your hatred towards me.
He just needs a goal so bad. A great goal, a game winning goal, something that says fuck you to all of us doubting him. We don’t need his confidence inching back up we need it to skyrocket
I drafted him in fantasy – my bad guys
I watched a clip on YouTube of his rookie season. Wow. I had forgotten how he bused to play.
1. Skated hard into attacking players causing turnovers and odd man rushes
2. Ready for a one-timer on his off-foot.
3. Holding the puck far from his body then pulling it in for a snap shot from a deceiving angle
4. Flew up the wing and backed defenders off giving lots of time and opening up his linemates for easy passes
5. Slap. Shot.
My feeling is that the injury is still lingering, he’s learning to play a system instead of doing what’s natural to him and he’s not confident in it yet.
Just so we’re all on the same page, petey has a better career PPG than Jack Eichel, is paid marginally more, has lots of time left in his career and contract to succeed and has never had a full season less than 65 points.
Last night I noticed every single time he made a slightly good play and it didn’t result in a goal he looked exasperated.
I actually do think he’s hurt
If by the 20 game mark petey doesn’t have 15-20 pts then we can talk. He’s just a 2 or 3 pt game from being back to ppg.
We critique him and he does suck, then we were right.
He makes us eat our words, then we got a superstar.
^its^a^win-win…
Fuckin’ A Donnie! Tell it like it is.
I think if he’s still ass after 10-20 games then something needs to be done. A health bomb or a line demotion or something. But let’s face it. He’s got the shot and hands that at some point will wake up again and we will love him. As of right now garland is our best forward. Night in and night out you know what you’re getting from garland. A greasy lil power forward that will play his heart out. If petey could stay on his feet or skate better yada yada. Stop, petey is who petey is. He will almost always be the guy that skates like Bambi and falls down. But we didn’t pay him 11 sheets to skate. We paid him 11 sheets to put the puck in the back of the net and help his team win and put up points. Till he starts doing that then his contract is gonna be bad. But let’s not kid ourselves, the whole team hasn’t done shit the first few games. Let them adjust and wake up and reevaluate this at game 10/20/30/40/50/60/70/80. Take it ten games at a time.
He just looks like a man who over thinks every thing he does: skating, passing, and shooting
So if Petey himself is saying he had knee tendinitis and it impacted his play, I have to believe him.
Evidently, coaching and management didn’t quite believe it was so severe. Tocchett had even been saying in the media he had to “move his feet” more. If he thought Petey was legitimately injured, why would you say that? And he played Game 82 where others didn’t, so kinda seemed fine?
My guess is that it *is* a legitimate ailment that is making him adjust his play, but at the same time, the team has clearly seen something about Petey that sows doubt. Is he a boy who cried wolf? Is it like, “Oh yeah Petey says he’s injured..”
IDK, doesn’t seem like an unlikeable guy at all. He’s actually super kind on the ice and looks after players who get hurt. So is his mind elsewhere?
Because then again, he has terrible body language. Even if he was injured, he wouldn’t need to have body language like that. (In fairness, it hasn’t presented too much this season yet). Good body language would be fighting through whatever it is looking determined.
I do think he was aight last game though. Better than Miller was. Could have got a point or two if he were connecting. He just hasn’t dominated for a shift the way we used to see in half a year.
Canucks made a mistake signing the contract.
Donny’s right. The guy is just floating around and we’re blaming structure? He needs to drive the play, not wait for someone to set him up for a tap in. 11.6 million should be for someone that creates chances on his own. It’s been since the day he signed his contract. He needs to figure it out or it’s just going to bring this team down.
If Pettersson is still dealing with his knee issue, shut him down now. Do surgery or whatever it takes. WE NEED HIM TO WIN.