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I think the old Laffs are kinda sorta semi f*cked here with their goaltending. Sammy is the only one they have who's even remotely NHL caliber and it looks as if they may have some trouble signing him.
I don't think he's worth no $4.9M but he's sure worth more than $2.4M. And with a shortage of decent goalies around the league and several teams needing a spot filled or an upgrade, I don't see why he would take less than he could get on the market just to stay with the Laffs. It ain't his fault that no one in Laff management knows how to do math.
$3.5-$4m for Sammy and buyout Murray 👍
Jean Beliveau and Vincent Lecavalier also wore #4.
Team comes in low, player comes in high. Seems like they both know where this should end up
They definitely low balling him but they probably are just trying to get the lowest cap hit possible. In the 3s sounds about right for him
Weaker and softer defence, their only goalie is about to walk for nothing, those wannabe goons are gonna destroy their own team this upcoming season. 😂😂😂😂😂
Samsonov has the mental fortitude to survive in Toronto and he's exactly what the Leafs need. Pay the man. Fuck Matt Murray.
4.9? Jeez. 3M is the highest I would go
8 forward locks for NJ, leaving the following competition for last 4 spots in bottom 6: McLeod, Bastian, Holtz, Lazar, Nosek, Tierney, Clarke, Foote … gonna get feisty
Couldn't Treliving just tell Samsonov he's a system goaltender and look at how Campbell is doing and no other team will sign him to 5 million dollars
Samsonov has to play 1 full season without injuries to prove himself first injurie prone players shouldnt get high pay 3.2 million for one or 2 years
Vincent Lecavliar is another great Center wearing the number 4. its hanging in the rafters in Tampa Bay today. if the leafs give samsonov 5M they will not win a cup with thier core of matthews marner taveras and nylander. i saw him play badly so many times while he was in washington. if this is as good as it gets, let him walk and sign Halak for a year
3.5 million is good. He got them out of the first around
$3.25, he's gotta show that this year was no fluke.
This is the same situation that the Caps avoided with Sammy by letting him go. Rather than deal with arbitration (with a player they didn't intend to keep anyways) and slacked with a contract they didn't want to offer they let him go. I know that in arbitration and negotiations the teams are giving "ideal" numbers for their camps but anything over 3.2mill for Sammy is an overpayment for an inconsistent albeit talented goalie.
Sammy plays around 30 games….a year shd be 3 million. If he won the Cup then sure 5 mill a year.
lmao Toronto is so dumb, paying Matthews potentially 15 million and then low-balling their starting goalie.
Fun fact number 4 was Lyle Odeleins number. The first captain of the Blue Jackets
Samsonov can easily counter that career save percentage by showing the caps defenders during his time here 😂. He was hung out to dry by parking cones multiple times a night when he was with us.
This is how arbitration goes. Player goes high, team goes low, then they meet in the middle. I like Samsonov and he was good last year but it was his first season as a starter and barely played starter minutes because he was injured multiple times. I wouldn't sign him longer than 3 years and the aav should be between 3.2-3.5 imo. Woll is the leafs goalie of the future. You can make the argument that Woll is already better than Samsonov.
Samsonov deserves 4 million
It’s not his fault if the leafs goofed up their salary structure after the Tavares signing
I don't think he's worth that much. He didn't even play half of the season…He has no argument.
Toronto is undervaluing Samsonov and Samsonov is overvaluing himself. They're both off the mark. But the team is leaps and bounds closer to being realistic imo.
Last season samy was worth at least 3. Not close to 5 but 3.5 I think is about right
Too much greed in today’s NHL. Samsonov should be happy with What he is paid currently and enjoy the years he has left in the league before becoming an ordinsry man again in 5-10 years.
man to is in tough on the goalie front but 3.5 mil makes sense. should be doable. oilers fan here. can't wait to see mcdavid and crew vs mathews and crew this year.
Samsonov worth more than 2.4, and its not his problem they have cap problems.
This is the thing with the Leafs. That core 4 garbage is what's creating that division and keeping the 4 instead of making the entire team better.
Go Leafs Go !
despite .908 SV Samsonov should still get paid around the $4m mark for at least 2-3 years LOL. Toronto just blows at managing their team and their cap space, just like they blow at everything else, including winning cups and getting out of the first round.
Samsonov was a pleasant surprise for Leafs. Remember Kyle DumA$$ took on Matt Murray and his 7 + mil per injury ridden season after another. Samsonov deserves 3.7-4mill per.
For the past 4-seasons the Leafs have treated almost all of their players outside their core-4 as expendable garbage, even when they were obviously central to the team's success (e.g. Hyman, Campbell, Mikheyev…etc). In fact the ONLY players they were willing to overspend on outside of the overrated 4 was Reaves & Simmonds as glorified p/t fourth-liners (what?!!) It's time to change the way you do business TLM and use your cap space smarter. Trade Nylander, if Reaves isn't a regular on your 3rd line, then get rid of him because you're obviously overpaying for purposes which you can't afford!
Dubas took a flyer on Murray & Samsonov. One paid off, the other with repeated injuries, not so much. Samsonov said he was playing on a one year deal to "prove" himself after an underwhelming stint with the Caps. Mission accomplished, but the team you have professed to love, along with the goalie coach (Sanford) that you credit with sorting out some of your consistency issues are tight against the cap. Going through the arb is a loser move at 25 yrs old given what happens in the room, so take a deal that meets the team halfway (3.6M x 2), play the 2 years to prove it wasn't a one-off, then you can hit the big time as a 'proven' # 1 at age 27. If you don't like Toronto, as a UFA you can go wherever you want. That's the smart move here IMO.
Leafs are falling apart and they barely got to round 2 with their "great" team 😂
Samsonov will get around $4mil/season. Hope the Leafs walk, then he'll get paid elsewhere…
Jean Beliveau
Vinnie Lecavalier #4
Sammy played well,find a way to get to middle ground.If that means trading one of the core 4,so be it.I would rather see that scenario then losing Sammy.
Samsonov has a fairly high ceiling and will improve for a few more years yet.
With Bergeron it feels like the bruins are falling into the same trap the Avs fell into with Kadri last offseason, waiting to hear what he’s gonna do and by the time they know there’s no good replacements available to sign
$4M for Samsonov feels right.
3.5 for 2 would make a lot of sense for both player and team. He could get a big raise after that