That’s a lot of paragraphs to waste on an answer that can be wrapped up by a single number: 8
superworking
I don’t think the Canucks are really in a position where any of the options are really all that ideal. We’re into his prime now and anything beyond a really short term deal will extend to near the end of his expected prime, so you can’t overpay in the near term to get value in the longer term like you would if we did it last time around. He’s also not old enough that tacking on more years will reduce the AAV because the cap is likely to go up between now and then more than he is likely to drop off in his early 30’s. Every year added will in theory increase the AAV required.
It really just is how long do you want control vs how much do you want to risk paying top dollar if for whatever reason he doesn’t maintain his current projections.
There’s also no real window where the team will have a competitive advantage so even if you could create a value spike, an 8 year deal may age better at the cost of being more expensive short term, but the Canucks are trying to focus everything else on short term so???
Certain_Pickle896
Canuck management and fans want 8 years. The real question is how long he wants.
electricnux
Him and Quinn are represented by the same agent so maybe if they’re not convinced on the long term he’ll try to get a 3 years deal until 2027 to match Quinn.
But as Chris Johnston said, most guys have a hard time turning down an 80M+ contract and it sounds like Canucks are ready to pay him. I don’t see Allvin trying to make negotiations difficult with the Swedish franchise centre, he’s too perfect for this market, Aquilini will tell them to pay him 90M+ if necessary to keep him 8 years.
Horvat53
Max him out if he wants to stay. It’s not even a debate, unless his production craters or he gets severely injured.
AidanITC2
100 years
ubcthrowaway-01
Give him 8x$12M for all I care just get him locked up cuz ion wanna be hearing no trade rumours around this guy
tripcy
8X11.5
SuddenlyChineseFood
I could see more elite players going the Matthews route. Only signing 3-4 years till 29/30 then signing a max contract to retire at 37/38. Not insured against injury but more of a high risk, high reward for elite players to maximize career earnings.
Although I wonder if anyone ever told the players it gives their contract less of an opportunity to age well in CH% and less of a chance to win a championship.
I’m super jealous NJD have J Hughes for 8×8. That’s a winner’s mentality and contract.
ClosPins
Since when has any Canucks player’s agent ever offered us a deal that was good for the team? Instead of asking what contract-length works best for the team, you should be asking what’s the absolute maximum amount of money Petey’s agent can extract from the Canucks over the next decade, team be damned. Because *that’s* going to be a hell of a lot closer to the real number…
nite_awol
Lifetime commitment
GangreneMachine
You can blame Benning for fucking up the Toffoli contract if he wants out. That really pissed him off. Dude specifically stated that he wanted TT resigned and management gives his money to Jake Virtanen without so much as a contract offer.
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That’s a lot of paragraphs to waste on an answer that can be wrapped up by a single number: 8
I don’t think the Canucks are really in a position where any of the options are really all that ideal. We’re into his prime now and anything beyond a really short term deal will extend to near the end of his expected prime, so you can’t overpay in the near term to get value in the longer term like you would if we did it last time around. He’s also not old enough that tacking on more years will reduce the AAV because the cap is likely to go up between now and then more than he is likely to drop off in his early 30’s. Every year added will in theory increase the AAV required.
It really just is how long do you want control vs how much do you want to risk paying top dollar if for whatever reason he doesn’t maintain his current projections.
There’s also no real window where the team will have a competitive advantage so even if you could create a value spike, an 8 year deal may age better at the cost of being more expensive short term, but the Canucks are trying to focus everything else on short term so???
Canuck management and fans want 8 years. The real question is how long he wants.
Him and Quinn are represented by the same agent so maybe if they’re not convinced on the long term he’ll try to get a 3 years deal until 2027 to match Quinn.
But as Chris Johnston said, most guys have a hard time turning down an 80M+ contract and it sounds like Canucks are ready to pay him. I don’t see Allvin trying to make negotiations difficult with the Swedish franchise centre, he’s too perfect for this market, Aquilini will tell them to pay him 90M+ if necessary to keep him 8 years.
Max him out if he wants to stay. It’s not even a debate, unless his production craters or he gets severely injured.
100 years
Give him 8x$12M for all I care just get him locked up cuz ion wanna be hearing no trade rumours around this guy
8X11.5
I could see more elite players going the Matthews route. Only signing 3-4 years till 29/30 then signing a max contract to retire at 37/38. Not insured against injury but more of a high risk, high reward for elite players to maximize career earnings.
Although I wonder if anyone ever told the players it gives their contract less of an opportunity to age well in CH% and less of a chance to win a championship.
I’m super jealous NJD have J Hughes for 8×8. That’s a winner’s mentality and contract.
Since when has any Canucks player’s agent ever offered us a deal that was good for the team? Instead of asking what contract-length works best for the team, you should be asking what’s the absolute maximum amount of money Petey’s agent can extract from the Canucks over the next decade, team be damned. Because *that’s* going to be a hell of a lot closer to the real number…
Lifetime commitment
You can blame Benning for fucking up the Toffoli contract if he wants out. That really pissed him off. Dude specifically stated that he wanted TT resigned and management gives his money to Jake Virtanen without so much as a contract offer.
Yes
Fan vs hockey fan happening here
8 more years! 8 more years!